Show Me State-Shows Idiocy

[TooStonedToType]

It becomes very hard to follow even for a moderator.  Most members here wouldn't see what sometimes goes on.  Like recently within a few day of another the below people registered from the same IP address (only moderators can view ip addresses).  While an IP address does not always identify someone completely, as different people can share the same IP address if they go through the same ISP, it gets rather suspicious.  As you can see, with at least thirty-three sock puppets belonging to one person causing trouble in hundreds of threads, its often easier to just globally delete an account and all the postings of that person, than read each one.  It does make for confusing threads and the moderators try to avoid this. I know Cassie spent considerable time carefully cleaning up the board.  Sometimes, however, in threads like this one, it can appear the moderators are against someone for the particular content of that thread.    Which is not the case.  In this case, the troll was pretending to be regular members here and asking to trade dmt for meth in the trade forum and such stupidity.  Note: Many of the names are similar to regular members here, but slightly different. Deleteing imposters isn't really considered censorship.  But anyway, everything seems pretty much back on track with a few more people with admin powers to handle such attacks in the future.

Tstt
Moderator salvia plane

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People using this ip address
65.57.xxx.xx.xx

1_Stop The Censorship_ 02 May 2005 0
2 Puppet Master 02 May 2005 1
3 Visionary bear 02 May 2005 3
4 StopTheCensorship_ 02 May 2005 0
5 T R O U T M A S K 02 May 2005 3
6 Stop_The_Censorship3 02 May 2005 0
7 Laughing Willow 02 May 2005 4
8 J R L 02 May 2005 2
9 S P H E R E 02 May 2005 15
10 Stop_The_Censorship2 02 May 2005
12 Stop_The_Censorships 01 May 2005 0
13 X Torris 01 May 2005 12
14 StopTheCensorship 01 May 2005 0
15 ToooStonedToType 01 May 2005 16
16 Stop_The_Censorship 01 May 2005 6
17 Troll 01 May 2005 39
18 New_Path 01 May 2005 1
19 KissAndMakeUp 28 Apr 2005 0
20 LaughingIdiot 27 Apr 2005 0
21 TooStonedTo 27 Apr 2005 2
22 Smiley 27 Apr 2005 1
23 Raving_Shithead 27 Apr 2005 0
24 Brain_Dead_Druggie 27 Apr 2005 6
25 Laughing_Brown 27 Apr 2005 0
26 Lonely_druggie
27 SpiritPlants 21 Apr 2005 0
28 Laughingwillows 21 Apr 2005 0
29 Ralf 21 Apr 2005 5
30 Idaho_idiot 21 Apr 2005 5
31 The_Freak 17 Apr 2005 0
32 Le Freak I da ho 17 Apr 2005 0
33 Orb

[simple_simon]

Sorry I wasn't aware of the past history and/or alias status of Laughing Brown and whatever other names he/she goes by. I was just disturbed to discover censorship existing in an ethnobotanical community consisting of individuals that are generally known to be very freethinking & open-minded. I have been a member of other boards where administrators openly took great liberties as to who could contribute and what they could contribute to the forum in what appeared to me to be a severe abuse of power to the detriment of the whole community. But I agree that if the person-behind-Laughing-Brown's only motivation for being here is spiteful vengeance then he/she probably shouldn't be allowed to infect the spirit of this board but if said person would like to stop playing games I welcome any contribution from him/her either pro or con.

I am in agreement in principle with most of what you say, but I disagree with your very last statement in that I don't believe that there is no room for debate. For example, what if the parent believes their child should be subjected to a extremely powerful psychedelic as a matter of course in order to give them " a clear perception of reality"? Is it their right to give their child powerful mind-expanding drugs? Where's the moral line over which a "right" becomes morally reprehensible? I'd say there's room for debate there.

I agree. Some parents and some people in general don't hold mind altering substances with the same amount of caution & respect that I mistakenly stated as universal. I know some that don't. Parents are the architects of the foundation that children build their lives on. If some parents want to incorporate drugs into that bedrock I can't say it's wrong. It's certainly experimental. Even tribal societies that incorporate the use of psychedelics into their community life don't allow the children to partake of those substances until they have reached a certain age, usually puberty. But whose to say it's wrong to. I would imagine that psychedelic drugs would be the only drugs that could potentially have a positive effect on a child and I would imagine that any parent with enough confidence in psychedelics as to give them to their children would realize the need to guide and direct the child through that experience. One step better would probably be to hire a psychologist as the guide, if that sort of thing were legal. But of course making drugs illegal always erases the possibility of the best possibilities. But who knows, maybe children of the future will all undergo psychedelic experience as a childhood ritual, guided by fully trained child psychologists, and grow up to form the basis of the perfect utopia that humankind has always only imagined.

[Amomynous]

I'm guessing that the post was not deleted for its content.  The account used to make the post was deleted because it was one of many "sock puppet" accounts set up by a disturbed and disgruntled ex-SPF member to post abusive messages,  harass users, and disrupt the fourm.  I suspect the post was deleted as a matter of course, along with the other drivel that was posted.

OK. My curiosity has the best of me. Could someone please PM me with the nick of the bad seed? Not that it's any of my business....

[laughingwillow]

simon: The stalkerz-man has also been using a photo of mine as an avatar for a few socks as well as a neat little troll-number page (accessible from many supplied links) that he has created, again using my likeness taken without my consent from a copyrighted photo. While I find his graphic work funny and even creative, its still been posted to harrass me for deeds of which I'm an innocent criminal.

lw

[laughingwillow]

Btw, simon.... We've been waiting for the guy to get right in the head for a few years now. We have cycled through His madness prolly around six times in that period. It goes round and round and where it will stop, nobody knows. But reasoning with stalkerz-man has never worked. Logic doesn't seem to be included on his list of positive attributes.

lw

[dendro]

man sphere, get over it bro...