A Prediction

[Zaka]

Irie,
Prediction ; I gonna call this one.
Obama will come out saying, well yes he was born in Kenya and the MM are gonna say, It's cool no problem...Well change the rules. Cos he's such a good guy....
This will then lead the way for Arnold Schwarzenegger to jump in the next available election to be President of USA..
Where this all coming from....check out Martial Law Part 3...Alex Jones movie..
Please go and watch the film....Then let me know what you think.
Respect
Z

[jokergrin]

I think he was born in Hawaii...but that would be totally funny if you were right!!

[JRL]

We would have to amend the constitution for Arnold. There was a movement to do that but the way he has screwed California they faded to the woodwork.

Arnold is a sore subject around here:my wife is a state employee.

[kemp]

what a bunch of BS  :blaugh:

[Zaka]

Irie,
Yeah I know! Crazzy talk!!
Did anyone actually see the movie?
It's OK, it's only a movie, nothing to worry about!
Has anyone seen the Backlash card from the Illuminati Card game???
I'm actually surprised that this subject seems to be in the MM currently? Complete coincidence!
Respect
Z

[laughingwillow]

Wait a minute.......

I just realized we prolly won't have long to wait on resolving this issue as well as all of the other little world order secrets currently being hid so cleverly out in the open for everyone to see. 2012 is coming!  yeah, that's the ticket, jicket......  

lw

[Zaka]

Irie,
So I've seen this certificate that they've brought forward....looks well iffy! And the newspaper announcement?
I wonder how far I would get with these two bits of paper.....would this be enough to actually get citizenship? Driving license or anything? Let alone president!
Respect
Z

[laughingwillow]

SO now you are an expert on US legal documents, zaka? This attempt to discredit this president sounds retarded to me.

lw

[Zaka]

SO now you are an expert on US legal documents, zaka? This attempt to discredit this president sounds retarded to me.

lw

Irie LW,
No, I'm not an expert! That's why I asked!
It's a straight forward question!
I don't need to discredit anyone. I'll let them do it for themselves.....that goes for you too :e_wink:
Respect
Z

[laughingwillow]

Here's a good piece on the topic at hand, imo.

http://www.capitolhillblue.com/node/18912

Obama's citizenship: Another loony conspiracy theory
July 29, 2009 - 6:56am.
By DOUG THOMPSON

In the loony world of conspiracy theory nutcases, anything is possible and the most ludicrous of claims too often get passed off as fact.

Case in point: The incredibly stupid debate over President Barack Obama's citizenship.

Started by the right wing in a failed effort to prevent America from electing its first African-American President, the so-called "birthers" movement -- fueled by hatemongers, racists, bigots and the incurably stupid -- continues to spread discredited lies that Obama was born in Kenya or some other non-American locale.

Our current President was born in Hawaii, an American territory that became our 50th state. Hawaii confirmed it and, for normal people with a working brain, that should have closed the case.

But conspiracy nuts don't have functioning brains. They have out-of-control fantasies, fed by terminal insanity, driven by inane beliefs that anything that involves the government is a dark, X-Files conspiracy to destroy us all.

I recently ordered a certified copy of my birth certificate from the state of Florida. They sent me a computer generated document that looks a lot like the one produced by Hawaii to confirm Obama's birth. I took that document to my local Social Security office and asked if that provides proof of birth and citizenship.

Yes, they said. It does.

But proof of birth will not satisfy the lunatic fringe when it comes to supporting the conspiracy du jour. They need to feed their lurid fantasies that Obama is a puppet of Saudi Arabia, a pawn of the mythical New World Order (otherwise known as NWO) or part of some Zionist conspiracy cooked up by anti-Semites to support their hate and bigotry.

Sadly, the Internet -- which could function as a medium for spreading real, fact-based information -- is a hotbed for half-baked conspiracy theories, hate, racism and outright lies. Those who question Obama's birthrate will claim they are not racist, but many of them are. You find misinformation about his birth certificate on many white supremacy web sites but you will not find one credible shred of evidence that supports the birther movement on a site devoted to hard, cold facts.

As an American, I have serious problems with some of Obama's policies. I feel he is pushing the country that I love too far to the left and spending this nation into irreversible debt.

But I do not, for one second, doubt his birthright.

He's an American.

Anyone who buys into the claims of the birthers is a gullible fool.

[Zaka]

Irie,
Thank LW, for a intelligent response.
Shame it seems so slightly slanted.
But it's says that's all the paperwork you'd need.
Respect
Z

[laughingwillow]

Shame it seems slanted? The whole non-issue is slanted, imo.

McCain and his team went after proof that Obama wasn't an American. It was part of the process of trying to discredit the guy from the beginning. Unfortunately for McLame, all proof and evidence led to the conclusion that Obama was born in Hawaii. So the story should have died even before the election took place. And that should have been the end of this paranoid fantasy. (Even though McLame wasn't born in the US.)

But no. The "birthers" have to cling to their delusional fantasies even after the issue was settled by the officially proscribed methods years ago. Even after the birthers slanderous efforts have been repeatedly thrown out of courts.

And the delusional fantasy continues with your initial posting, imo......    

lw

[Amomynous]

Z,

Is there a single conspiracy theory you don't believe in?

I'm asking seriously.

[Zaka]

Z,

Is there a single conspiracy theory you don't believe in?

I'm asking seriously.

Irie,
Quick answer, The official 9/11 conspiracy!
Respect
Z

[Amomynous]

Do you believe that there are "free energy" sources, but that "they" are suppressing them?

Do you believe that fluoride is a mind-control technology?

Do you believe that the government has information on UFOs but is hiding it?

Do you believe that there is a secret New World Order who runs things?

Do you believe in all manner of "covert operations?"

Do you believe that 911 was engineered by the US government to strengthen its control?

Do you believe that there is something "fishy" about the Apollo moon landings?

Do you believe that Jesus married Mary Magdalene and established a secret, ruling blood-line?

Do you believe that AIDS is an artificially created virus that was created for some agenda of control?

Do you believe that the official story of JFK's assassination is hiding things?

Can you say yes to many of these?

If so, you may want to ponder the embedded structure of the conspiracy per se more than the specifics of its content. Some people mistrust authority figures because of what they do and say, and some people mistrust them because the are authority figures.

Would you characterize your relationship with your parents as a close, good one?