Native American Church

[Anonymous]

I recently found out I have some Native American in me.

I'd like to join the N.A.C.

How would I go about doing this?

What would be the best book to get? Is there a Native American Church Bible or Peyotism Bible? Or something of the sort?

[laughingwillow]

Good luck.

First you have to find a tribe or road man to take you in. Any good road men in your area? I doubt it. Texas is prolly the closest they come to you, but who knows.

lw

[senorsalvia]

The way I understand it, there are basically 2 branches of Native Am Churches that utilize certain entheos within their spiritual practices...  One, (I believe the Native American Church has a written policy that only allows membership by those that can verify their lineage and are registered by the Feds a part or wholly Native American...  The other, the Peyote Way Church, offers membership to all sincere folks, regardless of native bloodline....  Let me strive to ask you to study up on the RRFA:  The Clinton bill that all the spiritual practioners have cited as legal justification to utilize entheogens within a spiritual context...  It is a truly fascinating read and a key diagram to explain both your religious freedoms as well as the onus on the government in regards to limiting any given practice....  Pay close attention to the Case of Bronfman, who started and Ayahuasca branch of the UDV in Arizona...  That case went before the Supreme court and the government basically got slammed.  It will undoubtedly go down in the annals as a righteous blow for religious practitioners throughout AmeriKKKa, because in essence, the guv now has to PROVE that an entheo using group will cause damage to society or,,, the government must allow the 'church' their sacrament...........I wish you well, as you could concievably be headed down a quite rewarding path..........

[Anonymous]

I was told by Mr. "Flaming Eagle" Mooney that I was welcome to join his church (The N.A.C.)

I was also told by the "Peyote Way Church of God" that'd they'd be glad for me to join, I sent $60 to their church in AZ ($50 membership dues + $10 donation)

I encourage anybody who has an interest in psychoactive cacti, be it Lophophora or Trichocereus, or a person who wishs to grow and/or eat Peyote, to contact the above organizations, it not only protects you from law enforcement, but it also will probably give you a better unstanding of entheogens and a new perspective on spirituality.

I would like y'all to know that the point of me joining this church is NOT to ingest Peyote, I would indeed like to ingest Peyote one day, but that is not my intent in joining the churchs. My intent is to learn from the people who are closest to the cactus and the Great Spirit. I just wanted y'all to know that this is a serious spiritual path I have choosen to take and certainly NOT just an excuse to "trip out", I would like to see Peyote growing happily rather than in my stomach... my favorite qoute on the Peyoteway.org site is- "As long as Peyote is an endangered species, it is more blessed to grow the Holy Sacrament than to consume it." I just love that! and thats exactly how I feel about it, too!!!

[Anonymous]

You ever research the huichol Indians of Mexico? Peyote plays a big part in their sspiritual/social/medical way of life. Anyway, they make a pilgrimage every year that I'm guessing would be right up your alley, if'n you were of mind for such an adventure on the wild side.

That sounds really interesting.

Do you think they'd let me go with them?

[laughingwillow]

You would have to meet some folks in Mexico who would make that decision. Maybe develop a relationship first.

These days, the trip is made by vehicle, as too much land is fenced in. A person with a pickup truck or car would prolly be seen as beneficial to the group.

Puerto Vallerta is a good place to start. Many huicholes live north of there. Day trips are possible to Nayarit. Huichol shamen do make it into vallerta from time to time, visiting the shops that sell their art.

toostoned and I had talked about visiting the huicholes before his untimely demise. I know he'd gone up to a village in Nayarit at least once.

lw

[Anonymous]

I got a van so.... ?

What ever happened to toostoned, if you don't mind me asking?

Tao rest his soul.

[laughingwillow]

I'm guessing you would prolly come in handy for the traveling huichols. That is, if you pass their sniff test.

Toostoned apparently died from huffing dust off.

lw

[Anonymous]

What's the test?

That's really sad about toostoned.

R.I.P. toostoned.

[laughingwillow]

I said "their" test not mine. I'm guessing it comes down to how they perceive your intentions.

Maybe a visit one year gets you an invite to travel the next. But I'm just conjecturing at this point.

lw

[Anonymous]

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[boomer2]

I recently found out I have some Native American in me.

I'd like to join the N.A.C.


How would I go about doing this?

What would be the best book to get? Is there a Native American Church Bible or Peyotism Bible? Or something of the sort?

First off yuo need to be able to prove you have real Native American blood in you which would require at least some DNA to prove so.  Just saying you have native Blood does not prove anything to the Church. Anyone could say so, but it has to be proven. A drivers license or birth certificate would not prove you are Native American .

The peyotist Bible is Weston Labarre's book, "The Peyote Cult."  It is the definitive book of the peyotl religion in use by the NAC to set up their structures and charters for their new branches of their church.

And your Indian blood has to be at least 1/4 Indian to be accepted into their churches.  The book was written by anthropologist Weston LaBarre, who along with ethnobotanist, Dick Schultes, in the mid 1930s, were initiated into the Native American Church in Oklahoma through their professors at Harvard University in Mass., and Duke University in the Carolina's, respectively.  

Later Schultes went on to collect the first specimens of P. cubensis, P. caerulescens, P. mexicana and Panaeolus sphinctrinus in Oaxaca.

Both LaBarre and Schultes only ate peyote two times and never again.

Below are several books on Peyote.

This one below was first published in 1959, then again in 1964, and later in 1969 with a new forward by Weston LaBarre. This one I am posting is the fourth edition, although I had an original with his autograph to me.

Here is LaBarre's classic work, The Peyote Cult.

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And LaBarre's 2nd great book on Peyote and other origins of entheogenic plants,

The Ghost Dance: The Origin of Religions

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THE WRITINGS OF WESTON LABARRE:


La Barre, Weston. 1938a. The Peyote Cult. Yale Pub Anthrop vol 19.

------. 1938b. Native American beers. American Anthropologist vol. 40:224-237.

------. 1939. Note on Richard Schultes and the appeal of peyote. American Anthropologist vol. 41:340-343.

------. 1970. Ghost Dance: the Origins of Religion. Doubleday. Garden City.

------. 1972. Hallucinogens and the shamanic origins of religion. In: Furst, Peter T. (Ed.) Flesh of the Gods:261-294. Praeger Publishers.
A study proposing the psychological and cultural matrix of shamanic innovation which presents evidence of the major role hallucinogens played in shamanic ecstacy.

------. 1975. Anthropological perspectives on hallucination and hallucinogens. In: Siegel, Ronald K. and Louis Jolyon West (Eds.). Hallucinations: Behavior, Experience and Theory:9-52. John Wiley & Sons. New York.
This article discusses various states of hallucinosis which occur from the ingestion of old world and new world entheogenic plants. Their various use and shamanic origins are also described.

------. 1979a. Psychedelics galore. Duke University Letters no. 4. Duke University, Durham, North Carolina. 2pp. December 13.
A brief list of numerous entheogenic plants is presented.

------. 1979b. Shamanic origins of religion and medicine. Journal of Psychedelic Drugs vol. 11(2):7-11. January-June.

------. 1981. (Bk. Rev.). Journal of Psychedelic Drugs vol. 13(1):105. January-March.
A Review of R. E. Schultes and Albert Hofmann's "Plants of the Gods."

------. 1988. (Bk. Rev.). Journal of Ethnobiology vol. 8(2):221-222.
A Review of R. Gordon Wasson's "Persephone's Quest: Entheogens and the Origins of Religion."

------. 1990. My friend Gordon. In: Thomas J. Riedlinger (ed.) The Sacred Mushroom Seeker: Essays for R. Gordon Wasson:147-150. Dioscorides Press. Portland, Oregon. Ethnomycological Studies No. 11.
La Barre reminisces over his memories of R. Gordon Wasson.

And now an image of several peyote books, all autographed to me except "Mescal and the Mechanisms of Hallucinations."  Observe the buttons on the books, baby ones and larger ones on the candle holder made of wood.

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Well this apparently only lets me post three images in a post so I have to reply to print the other images.


The book, The peyote Cult is out of print and is usually available at times on Ebay for a price range of form $50.00 to $150.00 for a 4th to 1st edition.

boomer2

[boomer2]

Another newer book on Peyote by Omar C. Steward published in 1978 as vol. 121 of the Civilizations of American Indians series.

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And

Here Is Trouts book on the chemical compounds found in Peyote and other mescaline containing cacti.

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boomer2

[Anonymous]

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[Anonymous]

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