Hillary got stomped! Is she finished?

[JRL]

Someone has to put a stake through her heart so the two headed beast can't come back to life. As iffy as Obama seems, he has to be better than a died in the wool big-government socialist like the bitch.


Well, I am not sure about Hillary but you say "socialist" like it was a bad thing. I think socialism might be our only hope.

[Stonehenge]

With Obama's recent wins, Hillbilly seems to be on the ropes. She has been attacking her rival at every opportunity and word has it that her agents are telling people she has "scandalous" information on Obama but does not plan to use it. Yeah, right.

Look for the bitch to get more and more desperate as she sees the nomination slipping away. The delegate count is sliding into Obama's favor with each state he wins. If she does not win soon, she may be out.

In recent polls it looks like Obama does better among all voters against Mccain than Billary.

Obama Narrowly Leads McCain in AP Poll

By ALAN FRAM and TREVOR TOMPSON â€" 21 hours ago

WASHINGTON (AP) â€" Democrat Barack Obama would narrowly defeat Republican John McCain if they were matched today in the presidential election, while McCain and Hillary Rodham Clinton are running about even, according to new general-election sentiment since the Super Tuesday contests.

Obama outpaces Clinton in a matchup against McCain among men, minorities and moderates in an Associated Press-Ipsos poll released Monday. And she does no better than Obama when pitted against McCain among two groups that have supported her in Democratic primaries so far: women and whites.

[cenacle]

I don't care how much you hate the Clintons, stop using the word bitch to refer to her. That's offensive, misogynist language in this community. Your hatred is evident enough without it.

[JRL]

I agree with Cen, and tell me, who was a better president, Mr Clinton, George W(orseever) Bush?

[Stonehenge]

Oh really? It seems there is a magazine called "bitch" put out not by neanderthals but by self described feminists. You better go over and educate them about not using that language

http://www.bitchmagazine.org/

And then there is:

http://bitchphd.blogspot.com/
http://www.thebitchgirls.us/

And even a book called bitch by a feminist. Better go educate the author. Can't have bad language floating around.

http://www.amazon.com/Bitch-Praise-Diff ... 0385484011

And so on and so on. Cenacle, you need to be less uptight. You are simply using that to attack me with. I have no idea why. I thought we were getting along fine. Was it my clumsy comment about your book? I meant no harm but may have come off like the usual bull in a china shop.

JRL, that is a phony comparison. The village idiot would make a better president than the current occupant.

No comment by anyone about the Obama surge? Just nit picking and looking for something to complain about. Oh well

[Stonehenge]

In case there is someone out there who finds the presidential race of some interest more so than starting arguments, here are the latest results

Maryland - Obama 60%, Hill 36%
Virginia  -  Obama 64%, Hill 35%
DC         -  Obama 75%, Hill 24%

It seems Obama is doing very well among women and whites, the groups usually dominated by Hillbilly. Even the media has admitted that Obama is ahead in delegates now, though the story I read "forgot" to give the totals.

I hear a wailing sound from Billary. It sounds like "I'm melting, I'm melting" Soon, all that will be left will be a puddle of greenish goo on the ground.

[cenacle]

The community is not "Bitch" magazine, and nobody is going to confuse you or your comments anytime soon with those of a feminist.

[JRL]

Mr Stoney, you seem to be the argumentative one ,my friend. Anyhoo, did you know that I have been for Obama all along?

Can you say Clinton's budget surplus???

[Stonehenge]

Yes, JRL, I like to argue and you like to take potshots. Can you say Clinton got lucky? I don't know of any reputable economist who says Clinton's policies are what produced the surpluses. Like I say, it would be hard to think of anyone less qualified for office than the current occupant. In hindsight, Bill wasn't that bad but I don't want him back in the whitehouse.

"The community is not "Bitch" magazine, and nobody is going to confuse you or your comments anytime soon with those of a feminist."

So only those you deem a feminist are allowed to use the term? All others must forgo it? I believe in equal rights for women though I don't call myself a feminist. If I want to call the bitch a bitch, I'll call her one.

Here are a few more sites run by women who use the term. But we have to wait for cenacle to decide if they are feminists or not.

http://www.heartless-bitches.com/
http://www.youbitch.org

and many others

Can we get back to political stuff or is that out of the question?

[cenacle]

You're not a female, you're not a feminist, and your argument is illogical. Your uses of the word was clearly as an obscenity, not an effort at gender empowerment. If you take a sudden dislike to Obama, are you going to use the N word and then cite hip-hop websites as your defense?

It's amazing how you say something offensive and then attack those who are offended. Very Karl Rove. How's it feel up there on the mountain where the perfect ones look down on the rest of us?

Some of us are going to vote for people you don't like, some are going to support institutions you don't like, some have opinions you don't like. That's how it is. We don't need your sanction or approval. And we're not wrong, or stupid, or sleepwalking retards, as you have said over and over, because we don't believe what you do.

You said something others here found offensive, and finally someone called you on it, and was seconded. No amount of quoting me in response is going to change that fact. There's no argument to be had.

And every time you use that word, know that you are doing the same thing again. You are offending at least some people in this community that you have been part of for years. You are running the risk of offending someone who might visit this site and read your comments and think that such comments reflect how people think here.

Watching you try and fool anyone with such pathetic rationalizations as "but the feminists do it!" should be laughable, but it isn't.

It's up to you how to respond, but sometimes someone just has to bite the bullet and back down on an indefensible action.

[Stonehenge]

All right, cen. You want to be the pc word cop, fine. But, you are saying some people can use it and some can not. It's not a big deal. If I had called her a c-nt, I could see your point but maybe you just got up on the wrong side of the bed this morning. I'll leave it at that. I'll try not to use it anymore if that makes you happy. Can't promise I won't forget now and then. I also notice you refuse to discuss the issue via pm which is by far the better way to deal with these things.

Anyone want to talk about Obama's comeback and likelyhood of winning the nomination?

[senorsalvia]

Regarding Obamas' latest showing:  Heck, I voted for the guy, if that matters to the discussion, but I have noticed been hearing some comments by "the common man in the street" that have me feeling both uncomfortable and sort of eery....  In the last several days, I've repeatedly heard the comment that what with Hillary showing a decline in support, and the likelihood of Obama getting the nomination, the Repubs will be able to concentrate on the old rhetoric of conservative versus liberal, while not having to worry about Hillarys' entrenched support base and Dem Machine powers being utilized...  The thinking seems to be that the Repubs are seeing this as a winnable situation by pitting consevative against liberals and then also attracting a substantial setion of voters that while not truly willing to admit it, are actually racist, and will not vote for Obama beacuse of the 'color line'....  Although I do feel that the Dems will end up in that big shack on Pennsylvania Avenue , I must say that if McCain actually does take the reigns; senor is out of the country,  period!!!

[laughingwillow]

sal: That was then, this is now.

I smell a changing of the guard.

Obama is attracting followers from all camps, colors and creeds. Check out the next event he speaks at. You will notice a ton of young faces. The kids are piling on the Obama bandwagon and that means all prevailing campaign wisdom goes out the window, imo.

Then take a look at Hillary's followers. Older white females and their husbands are her base. ANd their ain't a ton of energy in that group as a whole to fire up.

Take a look at the number of voters participating in each parties primary contests. There are WAY more dems coming out than repubs. Matter of fact, there are republicans voting for Obama because they don't like the choices on their ticket. However, I doubt you will see many repubs voting for Hillary. Matter of fact, MANY repubs despise her as much as they do her husband. She is divisive, imo.

If/when Obama gets the nod from the dems, McCain is in trouble. While I doubt many dem voters will jump ship to vote for McCain, MANY repubs can't stand MCain and will not vote for the guy. McCain might be big with independent voters, so is Obama.

In the end, this race hinges on our future direction in iraq, imo. Obama wants us out and McCain says we might need to be there for another 100 years.

Obama is energizing the youth vote and when that segment gets ramped up there will be no stopping us. The future is now.

ps: talk about old school vs new........ Hillary's followers put up a bunch of huge signs in people's yards with Clinton's name in big letters. Most candidates did the same, except on smaller signs. The exception was the Obama signs, which read in bold letters, "Hope."

lw

[Stonehenge]

lw, I have to agree with you for a change. I think Obama is unstoppable right now and will sweep the nomination and carry on to the white house. Mccain will use the liberal vs conservative rhetoric to win a few voters but his unwavering support of the iraq invasion (not war, invasion) will be his undoing. The demos will hammer on that. Unfortunately, Barak is a little wobbly on that issue himself but he says he wants us out which is a lot more than Mccain says. With Obama in, we can hope for new directions, a backtrack on the invasion and perhaps decrim of pot.

Cenacle

The word you objected to is not obscene as you alleged. It is mildly socially unacceptable in the same category as "hell" or "damn". Some people even object to "gee whiz" "jeez" or "gosh" saying they disrespect the diety. As a matter of fact, Hillary has been called a "bitch" many times during her carreer. The most notable time was when Newt Gingrich's mother called her that a few years ago. It was in the papers and a subject of discussion so I'm sure you heard about it. The consensus was that it was strong criticism but no one suggested she had said anything obscene.

Acting like you are the defender of all women by slamming me for using the same term is overreaching to say the least. Likewise, implying that I said something bad about Obama was pathetic. Lets just drop it for now.

[senorsalvia]

Willow, Willow,  thanks so much for pointing out a number of things that I had let slip into a barely realized state of conciousness...  After reading your astute analysis,  I must agree...  Ha, I guess I have fallen into a near constant condition of pessimism concerning AmeriKKKan politics..  In truth, deep down, I do think that yes, the Dems will take 'tha big house, so I must accept that and try to move forward...  I suppose that's what is really the cause of my current trepidition...  I'm truly hoping for a change.  yearning to 'breathe free', as it were...  I'm just hoping the next administration will actually bring to fruition some of my idealogical hopes and dreams instead of getting cornered into a morass of protracted stalemates and thus, at the end of the day, end up with but an office,  without the shining light of true change burning.........