Salvia Banned-Prepare for the Worst

[senorsalvia]

Daniel Seibert sent me a notice and link to that Louisiana legislation that would ban Salvia---  Well, it passed and became law yesterday...  can you spell, do years in prison??? :cry: ----  This is sick...  They also banned a whole host of other entheos such as Mimosa Hostilis/Syrian Rue, and on and on---  better lay in your stashes peeps---  Those with a green thumb better propagate. propagate====    senorsal

[Green2Herman]

Stupid to forbid a hole species with a unique genetic future. We could need all that DNA information some time.

By the way does anyone know how many chromosome pares that SD have?

[freeseeker]

The gov't has had NO success in eradicating marijuana, they'll have no luck here, either.   But I'm sure they'll make some people's lives miserable as they prosecute for possession with intent to manufacture.  All you Salvia growers, prepare to go underground.  I, for one, am not going to give up my plants!  Big Brother can go screw himself with a rusty gardening tool. :evil:

[random]

Just found this also, a little old but haven't heard anything about it since.
Trying to pass a bill in New York to make it illegal to posses salvia.

http://www.erowid.org/plants/salvia/salvia_law2.shtml

[winder]

The Louisiana law has a huge loophole or conditional requirement, intent for consumption, not simply possession.

So extract operations are prohibited, but 4 plants in a garden are not prohibited.

I see this law as being potentially vague and challenged.
Someone with a hedge of something will slip by while someone else is selectively prosecuted with one plant.  Right there seems to be recipe for a challenge.

Just keep growing your own plants and don't tell anyone why you are growing them.

I had someone ask me some while ago if my salvia plants were pot plants; obviously this person was not too well informed.  I said no.  Later someone else asked me if I smoked the stuff in all those pots, again referring to the salvia.  I declined to elaborate about how I prefer to chew.  I guess my point is that we are better off keeping our knowledge and our intents to ourselves.  Law or no law, I didn't feel like exposing myself to these people.  It is a small freedom to give up to have the larger freedom to still think how we see fit in the privacy of our own homes.

[CJ]

That to me is a correct view. Not too long ago someone tried to corner me a little on'what kind of cacti I had'.I`m sure he had heard or read something. All I did was ramble on about the mutant from the hardware store, the others from the nurseries and how this or that one was a collector`s item,worth this or that much. It was amusing to whatch the confusion and fustration set in. he was looking for something for his neiborhood buddies,and wasn`t going to get it.

     Since there are truly so much real evil to worry about,I didn`t feel he needed to be burdened w/what kind of cacti I grew.

[Jupe]

The gov't has had NO success in eradicating marijuana, they'll have no luck here, either.

  and remember how the quality of the classic improved, as people took to growing their own.   Salvia has a bonus working for it, in that it looks quite a bit like many other ornamentals, and can be grown in a wide variety of enviornments..

[Aneurysm]

Quite right Jupe, and it doesn't exactly require high powered lamps to get it to flourish (as opposed to our other green friend ), so that's another way growing can stay under the radar.

As for the government not being able to eradicate marijuana, their efforts might become ALOT more difficult later in the year when Canada considers decriminalization.  If you think BC is booming with bud now, just wait until its legal...

[visionarybear]

man that sucks...prohibition has provn not to work time and time again.... yet they persist to increase its range..idiots

salvia however cant be squashed, as it is stated above, looks near identicl to many other salvias which are more than common in gardens aswell as other species such as coleus! how the hell would anyone know what was what except someone familiar in the 1st place? even if questioned, claim a different species name, thats what it was 'sold' as so how were you to know it was illegal?...

big brother sure is a stupid one...

[winder]

Here's a marketing opportunity... tags that are marked with some similar looking salvia's name.

[visionarybear]

hehe nice winder, become the conciencious gardener-collector who labells all his plants...doubt anyone would spend the time cross id ing all your dif salvias or coleus to try and find a salvia in the bunch...

[Jupe]

cool idea... I know "some" of these..but the rest?

 alvia aethiopis L.
Salvia amissa Epling
Salvia apiana Jepson
Salvia argentea L.
Salvia arizonica Gray
Salvia azurea Michx.
Salvia ballotiflora Benth.
Salvia X bernardina Parish
Salvia blogdettii Chapm.
Salvia brandegeei Munz
Salvia carduacea Benth.
Salvia chapmanii Gray
Salvia clevelandii Greene
Salvia coccinea P.J. Buchoz
Salvia columbariae Benth.
Salvia davidsonii Greenm.
Salvia divinorum Epling & Jativa
Salvia dolichantha Whitehouse
Salvia dorrii Abrams
Salvia elegans
Salvia engelmannii Gray
Salvia eremostachya Jepson
Salvia farinacea Benth.
Salvia fruticosa Mill.
Salvia funerea M.E. Jones
Salvia glutinosa L.
Salvia greatae Brandeg.
Salvia greggii Gray
Salvia guaranitica Saint-Hilaire ex. Benth.
Salvia henryi Gray
Salvia hians Royle ex Benth.
Salvia hispanica L.
Salvia horminum L.
Salvia lemmonii Gray
Salvia leptophylla Benth.
Salvia leucophylla Greene
Salvia longistyla Benth.
Salvia lycioides Gray
Salvia lyrata L.
Salvia mellifera Greene
Salvia micrantha Vahl
Salvia microphylla Benth.
Salvia misella Kunth
Salvia mohavensis Greene
Salvia munzii Epling
Salvia nemorosa L.
Salvia nutans L.
Salvia occidentalis Sw.
Salvia officinalis L.
Salvia pachyphylla Epling
Salvia X palmeri Gray
Salvia parryi Gray
S. penstemonoides Kunth & Bouché
Salvia pinguifolia Woot. & Standl.
Salvia potus Epling
Salvia pratensis L.
Salvia reflexa Hornem.
Salvia regla Cav.
Salvia riparia Kunth
Salvia roemeriana Scheele
Salvia sclarea L.
Salvia serotina L.
Salvia sonomensis Greene
Salvia spathacea Greene
Salvia splendens Sellow
Salvia subincisa Benth.
Salvia summa A. Nels.
Salvia X superba Stapf
Salvia X sylvestris L.
Salvia texana Torr.
Salvia thomasiana Urban
Salvia tiliifolia Vahl
Salvia urticifolia L.
Salvia vaseyi Parish
Salvia verbenacea L.
Salvia verticillata L.
Salvia vinacea Woot. & Standl.
... and dozens more.