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Started by JRL, July 18, 2005, 09:48:27 PM

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JRL

#75
Well here is the difference: me leaving Jimmy- he still got the gig. It's being squeezed out of something of value I helped build over a number of years that still sticks in the old craw.

As far as talking in anger, I think I am way done with that. Jimmy is and will always be my brother so what I think is important is a clearing of the air. Jimmy and I have always both been good at avoidance as evidenced by both of our hard drug struggles. I wrote him a letter in the first few days and said that while I wasn't gonna try to hurt him, I was not gonna lie about how I felt.

So what I am doing is trying to do the work to keep all this from effecting the total amount of great music in the world.
a group of us, on peyote, had little to share with a group on marijuana

the marijuana smokers were discussing questions of the utmost profundity and we were sticking our fingers in our navels & giggling
                 Jack Green

JRL

#76
LW did you suggest pulling a no show? well man, while Jimmy has done that to me, I could never do that. It would effect way too many people.

But.......Flash back about 4 years ago:

Jimmy hired me and Drumbo du Jur to play this community party at this place called Mountain Home up in the hills(way down Hiway 49, 2 1/2 drive)

Me and Drumbo get in my van make the drive, get there, set up. Commence waiting. Getting close to downbeat, the natives are getting restless. Still no Jimmy.

Me and Drumbo repair to my van to hide and consume mass quantities af various substances. Getting later.

The powers that be find us and say what the fuck?
We hustle up an old PA head and put it through one of my cabs.

I spot a hippie walking across the lawn with a guitar case. I run up to him and ask "can you play that thing?" Before he even answers I say dude you are in the band.

We get up there and play, dude sings these horrible xtian originals, I tell him "lay out" and me and Drumbo lay the groove. We find one song the guy can play well and we play it 5 times.

After we are done me and Drumbo feel pretty good, went above and beyond to provide some music for the several hundred people .

Then the boss lady comes up and says, well of course you guys aren't geting paid. Too bad cause we got a check made out to Jimmy for $800.
$800! Jimmy had offered me and Drumbo $175 each, so he fucked off $450.

So now we got 2 reasons to be pissed at him. One for being greedy and another for being stupid.

I appealed to the boss lady's husband, finally after a letter from an attorney friend we got $100 each

Jimmys story: he over slept!
a group of us, on peyote, had little to share with a group on marijuana

the marijuana smokers were discussing questions of the utmost profundity and we were sticking our fingers in our navels & giggling
                 Jack Green

JRL

#77
Ultimatley I got a feeling that he will miss me more than I will miss him.[/quote]

Well, I am getting a feeling that this is what is happening. Jimmy is finding out that chemistry(no pun intended) is what is most important, especially in a 3 piece situation. Jimmy knows exactly what he wants from the rythmn section, and most guys no matter how good they are seem to be unwilling to give it to him.

No one is gonna cradle him like I do.
a group of us, on peyote, had little to share with a group on marijuana

the marijuana smokers were discussing questions of the utmost profundity and we were sticking our fingers in our navels & giggling
                 Jack Green

senorsalvia

#78
HHHmmmm:::   After rereading the thread   a few times. and   being a rhythm afficianado m'self; I find myself pondering.....   So Jimmy knows exactlly what he wants as far as a percussive/dynamo of accompaniment to his musical endeavors eh???    Is it  in any way allowable to consider the possibility that such defined sonic parameters might just be misguided???  Is it concieveable that a more nuanced interplay of sonic awareness and egocentric manipulation of melody and beat might well lead the way to aural nirvana....................    Jeez,  It's no wonder I blow notes on empty beer bottles-n-tap beats on fallow fibers of aged Big Mac Containers :lol: -------------sal--------------  ( as Cher stated so eloquently:  And The Beat Goes On and ......) :P
Cognitive Liberty:  Think About It!!

laughingwillow

#79
LOL Poor Jimmy. I'm guessing he ain't calling the shots this time around. And his boss man bass player prolly know just exactly what HE wants Jimmy to sound like. hehe

lw
Lost my boots in transit, babe,
smokin\' pile of leather.
Nailed a retread to my feet
and prayed for better weather...

JRL

#80
No man, Jimmy has unerring musical instincts( it's everything else that gives him trouble).

What he wants works. He wants the rhythmn section to be a rhythmn section. He wants to be able to NOT play and have the music go om just bass and drums. he wants it to be totally attuned and responsive, but to leave him space and let him control the dynamics. He complains when the drummer "always wants to play my part".

This is really a perfect template for making music. I have learned much from all of these brilliant men, no sour grapes will ever make me say otherwise.

I have seen this movie before. Brilliant cats with issues like Jim's drummer boy join a band,manouver their friends into  the situation and ruin it for everyone. Here is how bad Spencer is. He went on tour with Winona and got sent home cause he kept telling Willie Weeks , Winona's musical director and one of the best bassists in the world, how to play. Thats why he's not out there making $1000 a show but working for $60+ tips.

Yeah it's gotta be hard for Jim. I mean with me around as his #2, he still had a modicum of control. But you're right, Bruce and Bobby have a real good idea what Jimmy should do, prolly got nothing to do with what the weekly bachanal at the Torch needs.
a group of us, on peyote, had little to share with a group on marijuana

the marijuana smokers were discussing questions of the utmost profundity and we were sticking our fingers in our navels & giggling
                 Jack Green

senorsalvia

#81
Quote from: JRLNo man, Jimmy has unerring musical instincts( it's everything else that gives him trouble).



This is really a perfect template for making music. I have learned much from all of these brilliant men, no sour grapes will ever make me say otherwise.


Yeah it's gotta be hard for Jim. I mean what Jimmy should do, prolly got nothing to do with what the weekly bachanal at the Torch needs.[/==============================                                                         =============                                        Sounds like Jimmy is indeed an actual talent...  ( can't help note the respect afforded)--  That said, maybe he needs to pusue a session career, or, given his apparent penchant for artistic control, maybe writer/arranger.......  { Tha drummer playing anothers' part }:shock: ---  Whooda thunk it :lol: ---- )   sal
Cognitive Liberty:  Think About It!!

JRL

#82
Jimmy does as many sessions as anyone in this town(not that many).

He is a huge talent, a bonafide musical genius IMHO. I think what he needs is a band of people who support him with understanding and love, and who will call him on his bullshit.
a group of us, on peyote, had little to share with a group on marijuana

the marijuana smokers were discussing questions of the utmost profundity and we were sticking our fingers in our navels & giggling
                 Jack Green

JRL

#83
Check this out: Jimmy's drummer boy( the one who squeezed me out) got a better offer and quit the band!!
a group of us, on peyote, had little to share with a group on marijuana

the marijuana smokers were discussing questions of the utmost profundity and we were sticking our fingers in our navels & giggling
                 Jack Green

Avery L. Breath

#84
Ha!.......... as predicted.

JRL

#85
Yep, this dude has had a lifelong habit of doing this.
a group of us, on peyote, had little to share with a group on marijuana

the marijuana smokers were discussing questions of the utmost profundity and we were sticking our fingers in our navels & giggling
                 Jack Green