John McCain biopic

[laughingwillow]

I just watched the show on j mccain's years as a pow in vietnam. If'n his sadistic captors couldn't break him, I doubt the special interest lobbiests will. At this point, I'd seriously consider voting for the guy and i've never voted republican in me life.

lw

[TroutMask]

Sucker.

:-)

-TM

[senorsalvia]

McCain does come up with a few remarks now and again that almost seem genuine, even well meaning, or altruistic in nature; but alas, in nature a pit viper is to be considered dangerous regardless... :lol:   senorsal

[laughingwillow]

I see him as being dangerous to the status quo. And I don't see ANY other viable candidate from either/any party that fits that bill. I must like loose cannons.

The stoopid thing is, I'm willing to bet that movie goes a looong way toward cementing his place in the next election.  

And there are lots-o folks in washington who would benefit from getting bit in the ass by a viper, imo.

lw

[senorsalvia]

Yeah well,  I guess I should go ahead and come clean...  See the thing is, senor too has taken a look at McCain.  I must admit that I have lightly toyed with the idea of supporting him..  That said, I always ended up ignore the man, because the bottom line is that when push comes to shove, he's a Republican, and therefore I could not bring myself to cast a vote in his direction....    Ha ---  Yep, those in the hallowed halls of the beltway could sure use a bite in the ole derriere :lol:  :lol: -------- senorsal

[Amomynous]

The dems aren't much better than the reps...

Vote for who you believe to be the best candidate, regardless of "external considerations" (it's MHO that we have Bush in office now 'cause the dems tried to "vote smart" instdead of "vote heart", but I can't support that belief, so don't ask me too )

[senorsalvia]

Yes, it's true that for most purposes the Dems/Repubs are one and the same..  I do though, cling to a somewhat futile hope that every once in a while, someone will step forth from the Dem Party that will truly make a splash on issues that are thought to be historically the Dem Party Platform...   'cours that may well just be a pip[e dream of mine to keep myself placated into pacifism-------------  It'd sure be great to witness the birthing and triumph of a viable 3rd party.  Lemme hold my breath on that one eh?---------- senorsal

[laughingwillow]

At this point, I'd be happy to see someone step up from either party. Don't forget, the republicans used to stand for freedom from gubmint. I know many libetarian leaning ex-military peeps. But then freedom of gubmint intrusion has gradually been gifted to corporate amerikka while being taken out of We the Peoples' hands.

I guess I'm just tired of judging clothing when the truly improtant aspects usually lie beneath the surface. Anyone who endures the horrors of six plus years in an enemy concentration camp has plumbed their own depths, imo.  

I'm guessing a person learns much more about themself in particular and humanity in general while spending six years being tortured than another person living behind the ivory covered walls of academia ever dreamed possible.    

lw

[Amomynous]

Yes, it's true that for most purposes the Dems/Repubs are one and the same..  I do though, cling to a somewhat futile hope that every once in a while, someone will step forth from the Dem Party that will truly make a splash on issues that are thought to be historically the Dem Party Platform...   'cours that may well just be a pip[e dream...

And I'd like to see a republican step up in defense of a tradtional republican plank (let's not forget that abolition was originally a Republican issue).

I think neither of us should hold our breath

[psilocyberin]

start getting the word out about McCain even if you are a hardcore Dem, because, here in TN, we are hearing and seeing Frist working on his presidential campaign. Frist is a waste of life, puddle of used douche, and if you think Bush said the word "God" a lot, just wait.

McCain is more of a threat to the republican agenda than Kerry ever was. Karl Rove even spent more time discrediting McCains war status/history than he did on Kerry's. I see more Libertarian views in McCain than anything, he is a hardened man and might not have a lick of compassion for bums and whiners, but atleast doesnt have a staunch religious agenda.

[laughingwillow]

A-men, psylo.

lw

[dendro]

this cannon is firmly tied to the NWO mast. Check out his immigration policy--same as Bush and Fox. And he's from Arizona, a state being destroyed by illegal immigrants. Every time it looked like McCain might oppose his masters, lo and behold, there he would be, pushing their agenda...

[Stonehenge]

Nobody will be elected unless they are in the pockets of the special interests. McCain got sunk same as Dean same as anyone who is likely to rock the boat. It doesn't matter how many people like them, the news reports will find something negative about them and harp on it until they lose. If that doesn't work, they'll just fiddle with the election results themselves. The whole system is crooked.

[laughingwillow]

You're prolly right stoney.

I will have my head in the sand until further notice. (To be issued by the U$ media, of course.)








How the fook am I supposed to breathe down here?

lw

[dendro]

lw, we'll pull you up in an h ur for some air   :wink:

McCain, he's the one who eulogized Pat Tillman at the dead GI's funeral, after being killed by his own troops in Affy-guh-NIS-tan.

Now that the truth has been published, that Tillman was not killed by the enemy after all while being a big hero, and that the Army lied about it to everyone, is McCain speaking out and demanding accountability for the liars? No, McCain is silent.

And don't you think he knows that those WTC towers didn't "burn down", or that the military was ordered to stand down on 9/11?

You know, some people can get thru a horror like prison camp by means of an obsessive fixation of some kind. Such an experience doesn't automatically result in a person plumbing the depths of their soul, or the arrival at any kind of truth..