highly technical music.....

[psilocyberin]

I am a music fanatic, and on every forum, i have to proselytize the word of some amazing bands that every psychonaut should know about. Some of them you have heard of, or heard, but im sure half of them you havent. Some people will not like this type of music, as it is not really a passive listening experience. If you like Frank Zappa, Meshuggah,  or complex eastern scales and times, then you will want to click on every link I have here..... so , Ill just shut up and post.....


Jerseyband --- A completely original attack at funk influenced metal with 4 horns. They also cover most Meshuggah songs using horns. Listen to the songs: Pants, mischeif and robak on their website (my favorite).
//http://www.jerseyband.com/

Mr. Bungle ---- with Mike Pattons voice, and Trey Spruance's epic compositions this makes for a listening experience that will either give you an orgasm or an anxiety attack. //http://www.bunglefever.com/ this website is the semi-official website of the band

Secret Chiefs 3 ---- The band is Mr. Bungle sans Mike Patton and is heavily influenced by eastern scales and the arabic culture. Every album is a peice to a puzzle that Trey Spruance has created for you. The music ranges from off-rhythm jewish music, to polyrhythmic arabic style, to black metal. Caution: could change your life.....
//http://www.sc3music.com/

Estradasphere ---- One of my favorite bands of all time. The only way to accuratly describe their music is: everything. The transitions of this band are unparralleled which can take you from nice flowing samba music, to death metal, into carnival music in under 8 measures.
//http://www.estradasphere.com/

John Zorn --- IMO, our times greatest composer. At the rate he cranks out Cd's, you would think atleast a few of them would have to be crap, but everything this man does is a masterpeice. With more albums than i can count he his career has/is spanning every music genre that is out there and even a few that arent!
//http://www.omnology.com/zorn01.html

Braazaville --- Heroin influenced Bossa Nova stylings with very powerful lyrical and musical imagery. This music will make you wish you were just a lilypad on a pond. Very calming and sensual.
//http://www.brazzaville2002.com/

Praxis --- A new Super group comprised of : Buckethead, Bernie Worl, Bill Laswell, and Brain (sometimes Les Claypool). For once I am at a loss of words for describing a band. All i can say is that when i hear them, i can empathize with the patients from Dr. Rick Strassmans IV DMT experiments "DMT: The spirit Molecule".


then a short list without my wordy descriptions:  Fantomas, Danubius, Eek a Mouse, Glover Gill with the Tosca Tango Orchestra (did the soundtrack from Waking Life), The Kronos Quartet (soundtrack for Requiem for a Dream), and Buckethead.


ENJOY!

[psilocyberin]

so 10 veiws and not one reply? Atleast someone say my posted music sucks, I just want some acknowledgment that people are actually checking out the bands....

[JRL]

Well let me just say welcome and thanks for posting. I would have answered sooner but I've been real busy.

I will check out some of the links when I get some time.

Having said that, well I certainly dodo respect virtousity, ane appreciate the difficulty of pulling some of that stuff off, my direction in music is quite a bit more organic. Sometimes highly arrangenged complexity is to make up for lack of substance, sometimes.

To me music is a form of communication, a way of sharing deep experience. It's all the levels of interplay that happen when great players play together that makes the magic in my opinion, and that can happen in highly arranged music as well as free jamming and everything in between.
Music comes from deep in the soul or should, for my I want someone to move me, not impress me.

I would like to discuss this more, to burnt now.

[TooStonedToType]

I haven't had time to check out your bands.  But have heard Estradasphere before.  Reallly like them.

[TroutMask]

Oh, hey there! We share some tastes. The others I haven't heard yet.

I have lots of Zappa, mostly live boots. I was lucky enough to see him in 1988'ish and even luckier to get a boot of that particular show. A friend who went with me threw his sports jacket on stage and Zappa wore it for a while which was nice.

Mr. Bungle - I like these guys a lot. I have no studio stuff on CD, but I have a couple live shows. I'm not so hot on Fantomas yet and skipped a recent show in the area. I'll have to try out the Secret Chiefs 3...

Estradasphere - These guys are awesome, though I haven't seen/heard them without the tall dude up front...forgot his name. I recorded their acoustic "unplugged" (sort of) performance here, plus I have a number of other shows on CD and even a DVD. You can download some of their shows from archive.org.

John Zorn - I have a good pile of Zorn, but man is he all over the place musically. I have a hard time with some of the "20 seconds of screaming sax and screaming lyrics" CDs, but I really like the Bar Khokba stuff. I have a variety of different Zornish live performances.

Praxis - On the advice of a friend who got me into those 3 previous bands, I downloaded a live Praxis show. It's very cool. I will look for more and would definitely check them out if they came around.

Here is my current CD collection:
http://homepage.mac.com/blueskyis/TitleTrack.htm


-TM

[psilocyberin]

and I thought I had a big collection of capt. beefheart.....

JRL, i get where you are coming from and enjoy very moving and soulful music (like braazaville, louis Armstrong etc) but it seems that people only want either happy or self-depricating music and that is it. Music seems to be the only art form that is shoved into the two opposing types and all else falls into the plastic feeling virtuosity category in some peoples opinions. Music, like all other art forms, should be an expression of every thought and emotion.
Music isnt just for dancing, or grooving, or mellowing out.... life isnt always a happy mellow 4/4, or even a somber 3/4. No other art form is limited so forcfully by its fans than music. I can name one popular 7/8 song (money-Pink Floyd) and one popular 5/4 song (take 5-dave brubek). Would you only buy or attempt to understand art that is only done in pastels? Would you limit all of your literature to prose written in first person? The greater your skills and virtuosity of art forms, the much greater freedom you have of expressing yourself, and on so many more levels of comprehension.
I feel I can speak for the rest of the technical audiophiles (and this may sound pretentious) by saying that once your own musical revolution comes about, and you see the beauty of the complexity, there are blinders that are taken off, and music has so much more to offer than just being "moved".

[laughingwillow]

Howdee, psylocyberi. Welcome to spf.

Interesting take on things.

But I don't see "being moved" by music as necessarily being limited to one or even two dimentional possibiltity.

And you are prolly right. I'm guessing the complexity of which you speak may very well be as beautiful as the simplicity I seek.

lw

[psilocyberin]

loving technical music isnt the end of affinity for simple music. If anything, since i fell into the world of technical music, i have appreciated the old stuff i listened to much more.

[TroutMask]

Word.

-TM