Basic Salvia Extraction

[TooStonedToType]

Making basic salvia extracts is very easy.  ATGS and I were talking recently and it seems people make it unnecessarily complicated.  Here is a simple way to make an extract that should be suitable for all occasions; although, I highly recommend plain leaf.

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1.  Place crumbled leaves in jar.  Reserve a small amount, approximately 1/5 for later.





2.  Add regent grade acetone to jar and shake for a minute.  Filter Acetone from jar.





3.  Evaporate down the acetone until you have a small amount that can be easily absorbed by the leaves you set aside earlier.





4.  Add Acetone to the remaining leaves.





5.  Let evaporate completely.  





6.  Put that in your pipe and smoke it.

[dergheist]

Not another extraction!!!! :lol:  Don't we get enough of these around here!  And where is that darn moderator when we need him?  JK  Nice and simple one TSTT.

[dergheist]

BTW is that last item pictured for sale? Sure is a mighty nice specimen.  :wink:  I think I have seen one almost like that before, but I cannot rememeber where.

[Ziff]

oh ya thats a nice glass you have there where did you get it? ive tried making more powerful leaf that way but it was kinda gunky compared to what i could buy. how hhigh can i go when using such a simple method, i mean how much leaf can i use as far as a ratio? what turned your salvia leaf so brown colored? never seen any that color before.

[TooStonedToType]

>"where is that darn moderator when we need him"
He's probably smoking dope.  

The pipe is a Jerome Baker.  It was clearly marked for tobacco use only, but I think they were shut down in Operation Pipe Dreams. I just bought it at the store a while back.  Works good for salvia although I worry about breaking it.

>"i mean how much leaf can i use as far as a ratio?"
When using acetone and a quick wash you could use a higher ratio without it getting all gummy.  Maybe 20/1, but I haven't tried. How I made it seems strong enough.

>"what turned your salvia leaf so brown colored?"
I grow my own plants.  I just wait until the leaves dry up and fall of the plant.  They don't look as nice and green as picked leaves, but they work the same, maybe better for extactions.

[Ziff]

[quote="TooStonedToType
<<"i mean how much leaf can i use as far as a ratio?">>

When using acetone and a quick wash you could use a higher ratio without it getting all gummy.  Maybe 20/1, but I haven't tried. How I made it seems strong enough. [/quote]

nevermind, i just found it over at sagewisdom.org, he says about six to one is as high as you can go or the leaf gets too gummy for people to smoke. how can i make some 20x leaf then?

[laughingwillow]

ttst: You also bought a batch some time ago (supposedly from mexico) that had more of a brownish hue than leaf from your own garden, if'n I remember correctly.

lw

[laughingwillow]

ziff: LOL Why do you need 20x? You have a horse you want to put down or something?

lw

[Ziff]

here is quote from the sagewisdom web site talking about simple extracts

<<<<"Simple extracts have a somewhat sticky feel and inferior burning characteristics due to the impure, tar-like quality of the extract. A 5X ‘extract’ is a final product that is 5 times as strong as the original untreated leaves. Standardized Salvinorin A enhanced leaf contains a specific concentration of pure salvinorin A deposited on a small quantity of leaf material. Unlike extract fortified leaf made with crude extract, this material is enhanced with pure salvinorin A. This product is ideal for smoking, because it minimizes the amount of ‘tars’ and carbon monoxide that would be inhaled.>>>"

i cant smoke the stuff i made because its too nasty causing me to choke on it. do you know how to make standardized leaf? is it difficult?

[Ziff]

i just want to smoke something that has very little plant material to it so i dont choke on the amount of smoke that leaf made this way produces. 20x is too expensive so i wanted to learn how to make my own so that i dont have to smoke so much in one inhillation

[TooStonedToType]

Yea, that leaf from mexico was very dark also. Even darker than mine.  
I don't think color has anything to do with quality.


Here is some of that mexican stuff. I forgot who I bought it from. Some of it is almost black


As far as the comment on sagewisdom about 6x being about the strongest -I believe that was using alcohol.  With acetone, you get a much cleaner extraction, so it's not as gummy.  As you can see in the photo this is not gummy at all.


Here is a leaf that fell of the plant and one that was picked.


LW is correct, you don't really need a "20x". This method will produce a very potent extract with very little smoke.  I don't find it harsh at all.  If you are not feeling any effects from this, do some reading on smoking techniques and reverse tolerance.  

Standardized refers to extracting pure salvinorin A and depositing a measued quantity back on  the leaf.  It is beyond the scope of this simple guide.

[laughingwillow]

I'd be interested in a comparison of taste between picked leaves and those that are gathered after falling from the plant. Is it possible the "green" left in the picked leaves could cause a raspiness not experienced, or at least diminished by the natural drying process?

lw

[Ziff]

maybe im just intollerant of smoking salvia, period. i already tried the same method you use and found the leaf to be too difficult to smoke, even harsher than regular leaf alone.

maybe you didnt understand me, when i said i want to make 20x leaf i did not mean to impy i want something stronger. i ws offered some 15x leaf once and it only took a tiny little amount of it to get me way high on visuals for a full break through, but when making leaf this way i cannot hold the smoke long enough to have any effect becuz i immediately cough it all out every time i try.

thanks for you help, i am also glad you posted such fine pictures showing how a simple extraction is done, so clear cut and strait forward but unfortunately too crude for my lungs to tolerate

[Jupe]

difficult to smoke, even harsher than regular leaf alone

......I use alcohol based extract, packed tightly into a heavy wooden pipe, lit with a cool flame,(matches even) not a hot lighter.....totally smooth, no coughing, nothing but good!!
  Some people suggest that by only extracting Salvinorin A, you miss out on the subleties which the "other" Salvinorins B,C and D can induce.  This has not been "proven" one way or the other.
  salvinorin a is destroyed by ultraviolet light, so fallen leaves should be gathered quickly, if they are being grown outdoors.

[dergheist]

Hey Ziff, I know what you mean about the harshness. Have you tried Sally through a water glass piece?  I find that almost all of the harshness associated with her is gone that way and I still get a nice effect.  :wink: I still recommend plain leaf like TSTT, IMO you just get to a point of doing it for so long that you get dialed in and it only takes a few hits of plain leaf to send you to the plane.  :lol: