Psychedelics and Music

[TooStonedToType]

Could you imagine if we had Telsa around today?  We could dose him up and put him to work on the new "Surround Wall of Sound."  Probably cause earthquakes though.  Maybe this thread should be locked for our own safety?

[laughingwillow]

LOL For our safety?

No one here gets out alive, fellas........ (I forget who said that. HST, maybe?)

lw

[JRL]

I think Hank Williams said it first: "No matter how I struggle and strive, I'll never get out of this world alive"

"..and when the day had ended, with rainbow colors blended, his mind remained unbended
  he had to die, you know he had to die...."

[laughingwillow]

LOL I'm here to tell you the boys scared the be-jesus out of me on at least one occasion with a Cryptical/the Other one. But that never dampened me spirits toward the song. I just doubled down on the dependz.

lw

[laughingwillow]

....Toostoned's joke about locking this thread comes way too close to the truth for comfort, imo. Personal growth through the ritual use of an active sacrament is illegal in these united states. And as spiritual growth has its roots in personal development, that makes my religion illegal.

Hab ay neigh dae. - the girls @ mickey dee's local drive up window -

lw

[TooStonedToType]

I was only half joking.

"Our generation is the first ever to have made the search for self-awareness a crime, if it is done with the use of plants or chemical compounds as the means of opening the psychic doors."

The Illegal Search for Self Awareness - Shulgin

[JRL]

I am with you LW, we are sffering from religous discrimination and it is not getting any better.

 "I think the time is right for violent revolution" Mick Jagger

I am not sure, but who knows.

"Keep on coming don't you stand and wait with the sun so dark and the hour so late"  Now I do know that this is true. Gettin' darker everyday.
That's why we can't be apologists for acid and weed any longer, if you get my drift. Lot of people in the med marijuana communittee do that. Time for heads to stand up and be counted. And to prosilitize, maybe we should go door to door like mormons with paisley ties. Tell em I'll try your religion if you try mine.

check this out://http://www.spiritplants.org/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=548

[laughingwillow]

Yeah, jrl, but I'm not sure I understand the apologist reference above. (unless it deals with those who back med mj but not the right to feed the head?)

But I do know its easier to fight a war from the sidelines. Then again, I'm all for getting the puff-puff-passers off of their dead asses and into the street.

lw

[JRL]

Exactly that: "This is medicine, we don't enjoy this"  

Anyone remember this old tune:

"Smoking marijuana is more fun than drinking beer
 They captured a friend of ours and gave him 30 years
 Maybe we should make some noise and ask somebody why
 But demonstrations are a drag, besides we're much too high"

                                             Phil Ochs ( I think)

I keep remembering that Nixon ended the war in Vietnam as soon as he realized it would cost him the election.

  "Who needs bullets when you got the ballot"

                                   George Clinton

[laughingwillow]

As far as proselytizing goes, I do my fair share.

There ain't much shame to my game, as those who have met me would prolly attest. hehe

lw

[TooStonedToType]

Susie read that and is attesting. hahahha
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Too bad these definitions aren't in broader use.

Pharmacratic Inquisition
nov. verb.- The Christian [tstt comment:  Not just limited to Christian] persecution of archaic religions based on sacramental ingestion of entheogenic plants and the consequent personal access to ecstatic states; whose first great victory was the destruction of the Eleusinian Mysteries at the end of the fourth century; which then reached a gruesome climax in the persecution of witches in the Middle Ages; and which continues in today's Pharmacratic State in the guise of a public health "War on Drugs."

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You say you want a Entheogenic Reformation
Well, you know
We all want to change the world
You tell me that it's evolution
Well, I know

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I swear, I'm just one puff away from lighting me up another one.

[JRL]

This thread has veered off topic a bit but it is still hitting home, so let it be.

[senorsalvia]

As far as the thread veering; I dunno...  I mean===Psychedelics/music..  What a broad web we weave eh???  I have felt since nearly my first coupla 'experiences', that Psychs/music.spiritual awakenings/etc, were somehow entertwined....  As far as "waitin' till 'da revolution comes"  Well, I have been one of tha peeps that could never let well enough alone / never just cruise and keep things under wraps...  I have had literally countless conversations through the years with peeps concerning entheogens/counterculture/legalism/suppression/yadda yadda....  What I found myself prosetylizing most vehemently was my unshakeable belief that self exploration via entheos is not only historically natural, but that it is the "inalienable birthright of all us cognizent lil creatures...  Can't say how many times I have defended the use of hallucinogenics and psychedelics....  The straight ones would always moan about ladies bein mugged by junkies/crack babies costing the health care system etc...  It was always funny when I would steer the conversation toward "trip" drugs, and point out that they are invariably non addicting/cheap/damn near self regulating as far as dosage concerns etc....  The straights would stammer around mumblimg..  Eventually, they would utter something inane such as "but our guvmit says they are illegal"-----------!!!     I say let 'da freak flag fly -n- crank up 'dem jams ------------------  senorsal

[laughingwillow]

Not to change the subject or anything, but I just remembered a quote out of one of Mickey's drumming books that seems to pertain. I forget the old guy's name, but he basically said that there is a technical way of listening to music that needed to be discarded when exploring the spiritual side of the groove. To me, the best example would be a trip to the phil zone web site's show review forum. I never knew there were so many people who attended dead related shows in the capacity of "critic" rather than participant. I feel a total disconnect with those folks, to be honest. Imo, if a person has enough mental faculties to worry about song selection, botched lyrics and technical glitches, they just plain messed up on dose management. hehe

It just goes to show that different peeps go to the mental circus for various reasons and the freaky-deaky is strictly for the meekie like me.

lw

[laughingwillow]

I just came up with a prime example of the above post...

A couple of years back, toostoned, the wife and I caught a dead show in Wisconsin. Those in the know were not expecting much, apparently, due to the fact that Phil was minus a coveted piece of equipment. R Hunter opened the show and reportedly left the venue before the dead came on due to low moral and expectations. (A storm in Illinois had roughed the scene up pretty badly the previous show.) And the venue was a pit, imo.

Anyway, we were stoked to catch a show, knowing nothing of the precieved problems. And it ended up being prolly one of the more memorable times of me dead life. A second set circus joint probably had something to do with that fact. It was and remains a highlight.

lw