banisteriopsis Rusbyana?

[ayahuasca-journey]

Zaka ok friend, you will be invited, when I finish up my botanical garden of rare plants and ethnobotany and my sweet lodge for all members of spiritplant all free, except air tickets, soon be uploading photos of the progress ...
some pics of harvested seeds


chaliponga seeds


bag containing 1000 seeds
harvest date: 08/10/2010

ayahuasca-journey
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[Stonehenge]

the silveryness is only when the leaf is very young, then when is mature it changes, b.caapi leaves have 2 spots yellow color down under the bottom of its leaf, and chaliponga doesn't present this yellow spots.

peace

Alberto

Alberto, can you show us a photo of caapi with these 2 yellow spots? Are they easy to see and are they present on each leaf? And is it 2 each time?

[ayahuasca-journey]

o.k,
Stoney friend here are some photos where you can see very good 2 yellow spots? of caapi







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[therealsanango]

o.k the spots remain always there, when is red caapi the spots look kind of orange when is black caapi it looks yellow but you can tell the difference from the vine shape and color.
i've been searching the properties of the madre aya for  many years.
if you have any doubt guys just ask me, caapi will always present the spots.

peace

Alberto

[Zaka]

Irie,
Some shots of the furry leaves....
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Respect
Z

[Zaka]

Irie,
A couple more..
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Respect
Z

[meme]

Has anyone had a chance to test to see the alkaloid spectrum?

D. cabarena has 5meo dmt as a metabolite.  An alcohol extract of p. Viridis would be a good sample or dmt, and comparing it to an extract of this plant to see if there is one alkloid or two should be pretty easy.  Indole alkaloids are UV reactive, so this would take some bulk silica gel packets, ethanol, a blacklight, and some microscope slides.   It might even be possable to do with paper TLC.

If there is any interest, I can provide much more detailed information.

Edited for clarity

PS the presence if 5meo would make this quite a valuable plant, bc a traditional source of this drug is very much in need.   The analogue plants cannot compare to the history of actual use!

[Stonehenge]

Alberto, yes, i saw the little yellow or orange dots at the base of my leaves shortly after i posted my question. Your photos show them quite well. Not every leaf has them and some have only 1 which is odd. I was looking for spots right on the leaf and this is more on the stem. I also noticed that the young leaves have a silvery look which seems to be from very short fuzz.

Zaka, i see a wrinkling in the surface of the leaves which i could not see in other photos. But it doesn't look like fur to me. In a couple photos it looks like some silvery dust on them but in the closeups it looks like  wrinkled leaf surface. There does seem to be a color difference. The fuzz on the young leaves that makes them silvery on my plants is so short i'm not even sure it's fuzz. It might be just a color difference. I should examine them under a microscope.

[therealsanango]

Zaka, brother you should harvest a few leaves when is ready to pick up and try it out , with chaliponga you do not need to many leaves as with p.v to create a lovely incense.

Alberto

[therealsanango]

Hi, the shiness and what you call fur is also presence in the very young b.caapi leaves, just have close look on your b.caapi plants as well to the chali, this is the reason its been clasified as banisteriopsis rusbyana then clasified into DC.

namaste

Alberto

[Zaka]

Zaka, brother you should harvest a few leaves when is ready to pick up and try it out , with chaliponga you do not need to many leaves as with p.v to create a lovely incense.

Alberto

Irie Al,
Just wanted to find out what the traditional amount of leaves that are used?
Both my plants are doing well and stretching for the tree tops!
Respect
Z