The Illustrated Tea Party Dictionary

[laughingwillow]

Medicare for all or medicare for none..

lw

[dissident]

To: Doctors.

It's our way, or the highway.  

From:  The Federal Government.

[Zaka]

To: Doctors.

It's our way, or the highway.

From: The Federal Government.

Irie,
So when did getting western medical aide become an unalienable god given right?
I say if I don't want your meds, cos they're poison, and you tell me I have too....Where's the freedom of choice?  
God created the plants around us to nourish and heal us.
God did not however create the Big Pharma and try shove it down our throats.
It's going to end up with medicare for none in the end anyway. Cos It's a Scam!
Respect
Z

[JRL]

Well now, Zaka not sure what your point is now, but as a person whose family members are alive only because
of the most advanced allopathy I guess my view is different than yours. Tell me what you will do for say acute heart failure or mesothelioma??  Shouldn't the treatment of choice be available for these people?  

Is there an herb for paranoia?

[Zaka]

Irie,
Yeah it's all about choice & the freedom to use what works for you.
I'm not saying that western meds has no value....
But sticking $9,000 pa fine on folks who don't want to have medicare is a real issue.
No one is saying that if you want to use phamas gear...rather than farmers gear...that you should be fined for it!

The best herb for you would have been MJ....but the Govt, at the behest of Phama, has screwed that up, so now instead of doing it's job, your now looking over your shoulder! Try some Mulungu tea....always chills me out. (JRL drop me a PM & I'll send you some.)

Respect
Z

[Amomynous]

God created the plants around us to nourish and heal us.
God did not however create the Big Pharma and try shove it down our throats.

I though God created everything.

but the Govt, at the behest of Phama, has screwed that up

I thought the government outlawed MJ well before "big pharma" even existed.

Tell the truth: I bet you're argued, with just as much emphasis and conviction, that MJ was screwed up by "big Paper" before, haven't you?

[laughingwillow]

LOL I just read the part where diss calls the tea baggers the "silent majority." We live in "fly over country" and trust me, the tea baggers are getting plenty of press but none of the people I associate with have bought into this crap that faux news created. Around these parts, its the right wing radicals who support the tea baggers and corporate media giving them air time. Where were these guys when Bush was running the country into the ground?

Btw, diss: Do you really believe that supporting ANY political political movement is non-partisan? Wake up or dream on, haters.

lw

[laughingwillow]

After studying the tea baggers a bit, it looks to me like the one, unifying idea most people in the movement could rally around would be fiscal conservatism. It also appears most would be content nominating Ronny Raygun as their poster boy. However, that brand of conservatism just doesn't fly with me.

Any average Joe off the street who actually believes that trickle down economics championed by Reagan is good for the country doesn't know much about economic theory, imo. The damage created by the implementation of Reagan's trickle down (voodo) economics is being felt today. Yearning for the good old days of Ronny Raygun is like longing for another pistol shot to the guts.

As a registered independent voter with strong libertarian leanings, I long for the day when conservatism truly means getting the gubmit out of our lives and pocketbooks as much as possible. However, the right wing conservative movement today is all about funding the war on drugs, increasing funding for the industrial/military machine, gutting social programs and ignoring infra-structural needs while allowing corporate entities to siphon off huge quantities of our net worth through trickle down economic practices.

And this is why I don't support the tea baggers. Where where they (you?) when BushCo was running this country into the ground? Their (your? )anger is misplaced. Change for the sake of change? Not when "conservatism" is practiced as I've detailed above.

lw

[Zaka]

Irie,
Wasn't Bush president in 2007???
//http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKZmIzEMUN8
//http://www.youtube.com/watch#!v=pBR32X8vUy8&feature=related
//http://www.youtube.com/watch#!v=c0h69EazA0M&feature=related
//http://www.youtube.com/watch#!v=juTE_W9-ZKI&feature=related

Gary Null sums it up well
//http://www.progressiveradionetwork.com/the-gary-null-show-wnye/2010/4/8/the-gary-null-show-040710.html

Respect
Z

[dissident]

'Btw, diss: Do you really believe that supporting ANY political political movement is non-partisan? Wake up or dream on, haters.'

I was not a part of the Tea Party, and am not now a part.... nor did I lend them one iota of support.  I am simply pointing out that some of you folks here are acting an awful lot like 'Obama-bots' in denigrating them.  Just to throw a bone to you leftists, here, knock yourself out:

 http://www.crashtheteaparty.org/

(In spite of what some of you watched on MSNBC, this Tea Party stuff IS the silent majority, in spite of the efforts of various right wingers, RINO's, and FOX news to coopt and control it.  It is not too difficult to lead the average American by the nose.)

[dissident]

Ever get the feeling that the Powers That Be have us right where they want us: fighting each other, as usual.

[laughingwillow]

I think I explained pretty well above why I don't support this particular group of right wing nut bags. And I've yet to see you type one iota of information concerning the reasons why I shouldn't consider them wackos. The one thing you have made clear is that you consider the tea party movement a silent majority. I think that is a bunch of bullshit. I'm still not sure why you are shilling for these guys.  

Polls in CA show politicians supporting health care reform that are currently up for reelection have on average 17% leads on their "conservative" opponents. Btw, tea bagger supporters are believed to amount to 17% of voters polled. Not exactly a groundswell anywhere but faux news.  

lw

[JRL]

Not a silent majority but a loud minority.

lw, I hope you are right about CA. The repug candidates don't think so. They're spending literally millions to paint the other a "liberal" Obama  follower.

[dissident]

Oh yeah, you all are right.  I am sorry.  If CA polls that way, the rest of the US falls right into lockstep.  My mistake.  I also thought that the silent majority consisted of the conservative, but not necessarily politically active, common, average people of the US.  I must be wrong about that, too.

[dissident]

LW I could care less who you think is a wacko.  Conservatives are greedy, repressive pricks, and liberals are elitists and communists.  All wackos as far as I am concerned.  Just because I hate to see old friends here at SPF fall under the 'us vs them' spell, does not make me a 'Tea partier' or a 'hater'.  I would be just as concerned if you guys were all gung ho about the tea parties.