advice please, troubled friend....

[Amomynous]

Don't worry, it's just water vapor.
Chemicals! They'd never do anything like that!
...
Oh OK Yeah We've been doing it for years, but it's good for you! Don't ya know?
Dig deeper guy's!
Respect

Sarcasm isn't particularly "respectful," so you may want to edit your post, removing one or the other.

[laughingwillow]

zaka: I just read your linked info and think you are full of shit. There is absolutely no proof of the chemtrails for which you report to have linked evidence, imo. Weak, mon. And your posts above are disrespectful to boot.

Respect.

lw

[Zaka]

Irie,
I don't understand? What disrespect? Was it the weasels?? OTT! Sorry, None intended.
Well if you don't want to look in to it, fine.
MM tell the masses take the vaccinations, Fluoride isn't poison and weed is a deadly drug which will kill you if you smoke it!
Believe what you want....I'm with Aves mate
Respect
Z

[Zaka]

zaka: I just read your linked info and think you are full of shit. There is absolutely no proof of the chemtrails for which you report to have linked evidence, imo. Weak, mon. And your posts above are disrespectful to boot.

Respect.

lw

Irie,
So telling me I'm full of shit ain't disrespectful...?
Did you not see them handy little aerosol cans under the wings?
Respect
Z

[laughingwillow]

LOL Telling you that you are full as shit was just as disrespectful as the names you called the non believers above. But you noticed my disrespect and didn't see your own, imo.

Btw, the photos prove nothing, imo. I see a photo of a plane's wing and the caption explains we are looking at sensing devices, not aerosol dispensers.

Here is the caption of the photo in question... Using instrumented aircraft, the ISDAC field campaign obtained aerosol and cloud property measurements from the sky above the ARM Climate Research Facility site in Barrow, Alaska.

lw

[Zaka]

LOL Telling you that you are full as shit was just as disrespectful as the names you called the non believers above. But you noticed my disrespect and didn't see your own, imo.

Irie,
Went back! Still couldn't find it? Give me the quote.
I took this from David Ickes site,

All truth goes through three stages. First it is ridicule. Then it is violently opposed. Finally it is accepted as self-evident."
-- Schoephouer

"Man will occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of the time he will pick himself up and continue on."
-- Winston Churchill

Respect
Z

[LizJah]

Aside that contrails are/are'nt to believed...I believe the young man Av is speaking of has more "rabbits in his warren" than just this one.

Sounds like he may be bordering on the paranoid/schizo tip.

If he's that deep in...hopefully he only gets an intervention by mental health professionals and not the law.

[laughingwillow]

lizzy:Doh! You just blew that theory of mine. I thought anj was maybe talking about YOU hahaahhaah! j/k

lw

[Zaka]

Aside that contrails are/are'nt to believed...I believe the young man Av is speaking of has more "rabbits in his warren" than just this one.

Irie,
Lets get it right...They're not rabbits, they're weasels!.....and yes there is more than one!
Take a look, careful they don't bite your nose off.
Medication my ass!
Do me a favor, start by researching Fluoride and tells us what you find!
Respect
Z

[laughingwillow]

I think that it must be really frustrating for your mate trying to wake you up!
Tell him to sit down and watch Obama Deception with you.....
Then question your own sanity!
Respect
Z

Allow me to translate..... Even though you, anj, are a health care professional/psychonaut with experience in matters psychological, I choose to believe the problem outlined above with your friend's mental health issues is really YOUR problem. Please allow him to guide you through this, your time of need. PS: If you don't agree with me and your friend, you're insane.

lw

[Avery L. Breath]

You can see what I'm up against.  everybody screaming wake up, from all sides, with nothing really firm to bite into.  Is no wonder why I resist scratching the surface deeper than something tame like contrails.  How can I save a friend from a plight that he wants to save me from pulling in the other direction?.... other than to join in the fray...

I just don't want to get the sickness (or cure.... whatever).  I'd rather chop wood and carry water......... theirs just my friends mental health to consider.

I can see why he grasps it all so readily, but it's just not helping him.

(edit- and zaka, I totally see your point.  leading a horse to water exc., you want people to wake up!  but I don't want to drink fouled water.  I totally sympathize.  It's so ellaborate how it all fits together...... and their in lies a crux.)

[Avery L. Breath]

And Thank you LW, for your voice on this matter..... have always appreciated your perspective.

[laughingwillow]

Chop and carry, bruddah......

lw

[dendro]

I like to chop and carry too. But I don't think that learning about the social/biological engineering being perpetrated upon modern society necessarily detracts from this dharma.

There's nothing wrong imo with ignoring the current craziness in the world scene, but I also don't think there is anything intrinsically wrong with being aware of it. Sure, don't get all obsessive about it, but really, what's the harm with noticing the activities of criminals that manipulate the very realities we must swim in? Given the current craziness, I actually find knowing about the perpetrators and their activities to be personally grounding.

Knowing about it doesn't have to make you crazy. (Hey, I heard that! )

I brought up chemtrails on this board many years ago, to see what the consensus was. People here were negative to the idea, so I dropped it. But I kept an eye on the issue, and over the years, I have seen more and more evidence that this is indeed happening.

As for 9/11, personally I am just super amazed that folks fall for the official lies published about the WTC events. Once I witnessed the buildings fall that day, I knew they were brought down by explosives. It's so obvious. Now that Thermate and iron nanospheres have been found in the dust, along with other evidences, it's clear to me at least that incendiary explosives were used in the buildings. There is really no other explanation for the molten pool under the building sites, that kept burning for  a couple months after the event.

Cognitive dissonance is a human psychological trait that arises when new, challenging info enters a mind locked into a set paradigm. The person then must perform all manner of mental gymnastics of an illogical nature in order to reconcile the new data, or simply to lapse back into the "safer" paradigm already in place. Victims of cult programming deal with this daily.

Americans in general cannot deal with the reality that the top levels of the US Gov't. have been usurped by a cabal of foreign and domestic bankers. So they fall back into the easy myths they were taught in elementary school, about freedom and the constitution and the inherent goodness of the American system. Very hard conditioning for some to deal with.

I would rather know the truth, but I am very blunt that way, and as I have always been a social skeptic, I am not much bothered by it. I don't like the horrorshow, but there it is. To me, it's just a part of maya's dance.

Attraction and repulsion are both attachment.

The grand wheel of dharma and karma  turns above the Tibetan plateau, doling out the scenes and acts in the proper way.

[Avery L. Breath]

well said Dendro.