Temple of Entheogenic Spirituality

[laughingwillow]

Bruddah jrl was kind enough to gift me a T lumberjack seven years ago or so.

Can't count the number of cactus seed I've sprouted since then. (I'll post pics of our mango canyon one day, teo-bro.)

teo: You ever research the huichol Indians of Mexico? Peyote plays a big part in their sspiritual/social/medical way of life. Anyway, they make a pilgrimage every year that I'm guessing would be right up your alley, if'n you were of mind for such an adventure on the wild side. (Just use McGoogle)

lw

[JRL]

7 years?!? We been knowing each other that long?? Tempus fugit!!!!

[senorsalvia]

Howdy to all fellow choir participants. ..  I gotta tell 'ya; this is a subject that comes up from time to time, and invariably the same words are uttered... I certainly have my fantasies as well as a deep seated anti-guvmit hankering to 'crow it from the rooftop' as mentioned.. Yeah, the possible legal reprecussions would likely be as bro Willow opines...  Us that have walked this path prolly know from many experiences that the 'entheo-church' participants are an eclectic and mutifacted jewel of creation... Sometimes the service is peaceful, sometimes ecstatic...  Sounds somehow trite to distill the essence of the thing, but maybe as one walks the path, the learning process does become self evident, does show one where to proceed and how to adjust to the prevailing winds.... Guess it has to do with a certain 'balance'....

[Anonymous]

Come one come all!

Help save the Lophophora "Peyote" and Astrophytum!!!

Join Peyote Way!!!

Become a member at Erowid!

Become a Yoist!

[boomer2]

Don't grow Salvia or Peyote? That's ok... Just wait! They'll make Caapi, Trichocereus ~ "San Pedro" and other botanicals illegal soon!
~ Teotzlcoatl ~

San Pedro is sold world wide and would never be made illegal.

I really do not know where you get your information from, but much of it is false and misleading.

Thrichocereus cacti are used primarily for grafting, You can graft any cactus that will not grow outside of its normal habitat to the san pedro.

Caapii is legal but the chemical compounds in the vine are illegal, although harmaline extracts are sold over the internet.

Please stop posting this kind of misleading information.

You also really read to read Weston LaBarre's, "The Peyote Cult,"

And he and Richard Evans Schultes ate peyote at a Native American Church Ceremony in the early 1930s.  A lesson for your history of peyote,  Dr. LaBarre only ate peyote twice in his life and his book is the bible of the NAC.

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and his masterpiece, "The Ghost Dance: The Origins of Religion."

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A few more peyote books in my collection, autographed to me by the authors, except the Mescal and Mechanisms of Hallucinations bu Heinrich Kluver.

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Also read Aldous Huxley's "Brave New World."

if you do not then not many people are going to take anything you say seriously, Especially your attempt to promote the Peyote Church Way of Life.

Here are some of LaBarre's literature which I think you need to read if you are to continue any serious comments about peyote,

La Barre, Weston. 1938a. The Peyote Cult. Yale Pub Anthrop vol 19.

------. 1939. Note on Richard Schultes and the appeal of peyote. American Anthropologist vol. 41:340-343.

------. 1970. Ghost Dance: the Origins of Religion. Doubleday. Garden City.

------. 1972. Hallucinogens and the shamanic origins of religion. In: Furst, Peter T. (Ed.) Flesh of the Gods:261-294. Praeger Publishers.
A study proposing the psychological and cultural matrix of shamanic innovation which presents evidence of the major role hallucinogens played in shamanic ecstasy.

------. 1975. Anthropological perspectives on hallucination and hallucinogens. In: Siegel, Ronald K. and Louis Jolyon West (Eds.). Hallucinations: Behavior, Experience and Theory:9-52. John Wiley & Sons. New York.
This article discusses various states of hallucinosis which occur from the ingestion of old world and new world entheogenic plants. Their various use and shamanic origins are also described.

------. 1979a. Psychedelics galore. Duke University Letters no. 4. Duke University, Durham, North Carolina. 2pp. December 13.
A brief list of numerous entheogenic plants is presented.

------. 1979b. Shamanic origins of religion and medicine. Journal of Psychedelic Drugs vol. 11(2):7-11. January-June.

------. 1981. (Bk. Rev.). Journal of Psychedelic Drugs vol. 13(1):105. January-March.
A Review of R. E. Schultes and Albert Hofmann's "Plants of the Gods."

------. 1988. (Bk. Rev.). Journal of Ethnobiology vol. 8(2):221-222.
A Review of R. Gordon Wasson's "Persephone's Quest: Entheogens and the Origins of Religion."

------. 1990. My friend Gordon. In: Thomas J. Riedlinger (ed.) The Sacred Mushroom Seeker: Essays for R. Gordon Wasson:147-150. Dioscorides Press. Portland, Oregon. Ethnomycological Studies No. 11.
La Barre reminisces over his memories of R. Gordon Wasson.


boomer2

[kemp]

Caapii is legal but the chemical compounds in the vine are illegal, although harmaline extracts are sold over the internet.

Harmine & Harmaline aren't scheduled in the US that I am aware of...  
now, Canada is another story.   :roll:

[Anonymous]

Wow that's shitty, Caapi isn't illegal tho is it?

Join Peyote way, go on a peyote eating spirit-walk

//http://www.peyoteway.org/faq.htm

[laughingwillow]

teo: Do you recommend their spirit walk?

How was yours?

I thought you were against the consumption of this most sacred plant.

lw

[Anonymous]

Where the hell did you get the idea I was agaist eating Peyote?

I never said that...

I haven't gone on a Spirit-walk yet.

[boomer2]

Have you experienced an Indian sweat lodge under poles and blankets with hot coals on an all night vigil.

Read Schultes and Hofmann's Tracks of the little deer in Plants of the Gods.

You really need to read some literature with real facts and not baseless internet confusion,

Do not be a poppin-jay

boomer2

[Anonymous]

Ya sure.

[laughingwillow]

quote teo from another thread...........

Did you miss when I said "I've never taken Peyote"? I've never taken it because I respect it. Obvisouly I'm not using this to trip Peyote... if I was, wouldn't I be eating it?

It sounds to me like you are talking out of both sides of your mouth on this one, bro.

You have not taken peyote because you respect it. And you would rather have peyote in your garden than in your stomach, right?

But you plan on taking a spirit walk by ingesting peyote as part of your new found religion that we should all join, so we can all take spirit walks by ingesting this sacred and increasingly rare plant.

Btw, I'm guessing your new pal red dragon's respectful tune will change a bit after he gets a little better grip on your trip. In a post above, you thank him for setting you straight in a friendly manner, but then you come back and start trying to get community members to join your church again without really knowing what its all about yourself. Oh, I forgot, you have visited their website.....  :cool2

lw

[Anonymous]

Ok my point is...

I didn't join the church so I could run out and eat a bunch of Peyote, I will eat Peyote SOME DAY... but it's not the reason why I joined the church.

Understand? Kinda?

Sorry if I'm confusing!

I don't know what you said about Redragaon, but he seems like a really nice dude to me!

[laughingwillow]

Give reddragon time to get to know you a bit, teo.

I'm guessing more than one spr member was nicer to you when you first came around than they are now.  :geek:

Imo, you are either a slow learner or you just enjoy getting under peoples skin.

lw

[Anonymous]

Well thats a really nice thing to say...

Geeze.