Hepethatis and weed

[fuzz]

Do any of you have any information about the effects of weed/hash on hepethatis C?

Hepethathis C is a virus that hurts the liver, so of course alcohol is no good. But i was wandering if weed had any known effects on the virus?

Also, i am researching plant medecine for healing the liver from this virus.
According to wiki:
"As an example, extract of Silybum marianum and Sho-saiko-to are sold; the first is said to provide some generic help to hepatic functions, and the second claims to aid in liver health and provide some antiviral effects."

If anyone has any extra info or personal experience to share, it'd be greatly apreciated:)

[senorsalvia]

The German guv did a study that has them believing that Milk Thistle extracts are as effective for Hep-C as any other treatment currently in use...  I was part of a research trial on Hep-C and one guy in the trial told me that he had had to stop taking Milk Thistle to cause his viral load numbers to rise so that he could be included in the testing...  Heck, it's a cheap thing to try, at any rate.....

[JRL]

I know an accordian player who is totally virus free after an interferon trial. Does it work that well?

[senorsalvia]

Interferon :shock: ---  Eeeek...  I'm so glad to hear your friend had a good result from interferon.  That said, I have always been told that the treatment was very very brutal. (sickness/vomiting/lassitude)..  Have talked to folks that did Interferon treatments and they all said they would rather die than go through treatment sickness again...  VA offered me interferon 5-7yrs ago, and due to horror stories I'd heard, I turned down the offer....   I have met people in Hep-C trials that have such a wide range of viral load counts that I would be hesitant to suggest that any particular treatment would produce consistent regular outcomes on mixed populations..  Guess it's all sort of a crapshoot, depending on how the individual responds....   Heck, I once was at a viral count of 630,000 but looked and felt fine;  whereas a gal in the same trial had a load of 230,000, and, unfortunately you could see and tell she was not long for this world....  Luckily I seem to be asyptomatic regardless of my viral count and the fact that I drink beer a couple times a week......

[Stonehenge]

I've never heard of a negative interaction between hepatitis and weed. I've never heard of weed harming the liver, but alcohol will definitely do it if you drink too much. There are some promising treatments out there for hep.

[JRL]

Well, he never said it was easy, he looked like crap after his treatments.

[fuzz]

thanks a lot you guys. any info is appreciated, as i am just starting on my research.

i am still waiting for blood test number 2, in which they do the genetype, viral charge, PCR ect etc. For all i know i got nothing to worry about;)
Being only transfered by blood, I have no clue when i caught this virus, not having intravenous drugs since 99. Maybe it's from a tattoo i got in Nepal. Can snorting stuff cause to catch this virus? I do induldge in snorting ketamine in goa quite  a bit;)
I havent had any symptoms whatsoever, my health having no problems. My ALAT and ASAT level are just about 100 above normal level, so not much at all. Some without hep get higher levels.

I just was doing a random blood test to make sure everything is ok cause next year i am thinking of making a baby with my nepale love.

The things i have read about interferon sounds horrible, and it doesnt seem like a thing i'd want to put myself through, unless of course i am dying and all.
Also it does seem that results depend on too maaany factors to be sure of results. And yeah i am a skeptic concerning all those modern medecine, that might heal one thing, but kill another thing at the same time.

I read that many poeple show no symptoms whatsoever and live a normal life? Is this true?

Of course i would follow a interferon treatment, if really i haaaaave too, but first i'll test other things, since my body still has no symptoms. I dont really drink alcohol (excpet some wine and treats when i visit my family in france for one month, but even the wine i stopped since the blood test), my diet is mainly rice and lentils for the last 2 years in Asia, only thing is quite a bit of thc smoking.

I went to an herb store and they recommended desmodium to heal the liver. Desmodium seems like a really worth while plant for liver issues and asma. I'll try milk thistle as well.

Since I am going back to India next week, unless the doctor tells me that i neeeeedddd interferon, i will take my plane and test out ayuverdic meds, and maybe my tibetan doc.

thanks again for any info. its fascinating reading on the net the various debates between traditional western medecine being pro interferon, and people trying alternative cures because interferon was too much for them, and eventually had bad results. Also of course, interferon did have very positive effects on others.

Any recommendations are greatly appreaciated:)

[Stonehenge]

Some types of hep are hard to get but some are very easy to get. I think C is the easy one to get but could be mistaken. People can live with it for decades.

[fuzz]

Actually, Stonehenge, if you would have taken the time to look at a basic info on hep such as on wiki, you'd find that hep C is harder to get than A or B.
hep C is moslty transmitted by blood, so you need direct blood contact, such as with needles, blood transplant, tatoos, piercing etc.
A is tramsitted via dirty water and fecal matters. B via blood and body fluids containing blood.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hepatitis

Anyhows its a reminder that its always good to be careful about blood and dirty waters (especially in countries with no good water and basic cleanliness. poorer countries having big hep counts). A and B have vaccins, but not C.

For me, I am still waiting for next blood results, and no matter what its a good reminder to have a healthy life style, eat good, limit alcohol etc, and maybe take some blood and liver cleaners to clean the liver.

Take care of your bodies, it will love you in return:)

[Stonehenge]

Yes, fuzz, you are correct in that a and b are the easier ones to get. I did say "I could be mistaken" and I was. However, C is not as hard to get as some have thought.

http://www.epidemic.org/theFacts/hepati ... nsmission/

"Day-to-day contact with another household member that has hepatitis C has also been strongly implicated. Maternal-infant transmission has also been documented as a mode of spread"

[fuzz]

thanks for looking up more info Stoney:)

From the data i've been reading, it seems that its very rare to get hep c via common household stuff (like toothbursh, razor etc), you'd need quite a bit of blood in contact with virus. but its better to take basic precautions about sharing private items anyhows. research i have read even mentions that if staying with same partner, no need to change sexual habits, just stay of the booty around period times.
Same about mother infant transmission. it's very rare cases, and many have had successfull pregnancies with no problems with hep C. Of course its good to have a regular doc follow up in such cases.

It seems that most folks with hep C die long before of something not related; the extreme cases being for junkies and heavy alcohol users, whose immune system isnt all the best to begin with.

a little Milk thistles ?
:geek:  :smoke2:

[senorsalvia]

Do remember that with Hep-C, there are genotype variants that differ alot in their resonse to treatments...  I forget what ones they are;   but the info is readily 'out there'...  I've got to assume that I contracted the virus from IV use while in the military and that it was never diagnosed until decades later..  It used to be that the medical establishment acknowledged Hep A & B, and then had a laundry list of unproven poorly documented things that they lumped under the title of 'non specific Hepatitis'.   From the last info I was given, the docs now list Hep as going all the way out to Hep-H!!!!.... I'm so lucky that I have no symptoms.. 'Course, neither did a friend of mine, then he died from liver failure just 6 months after diagnosis...

[fuzz]

i just wanted to thank you all for info you have shared. as it is new for me, i get info where i can.
i have done my little research on the web, and since i have no symptoms and have no clue when i got it, for now i'll keep on living my life as usual. according to some research, in 20% cases, the virus self heals, i pray for that;)
in a couple days i get the results from second blood tests, which will tell me my genotype.
From what i read about interferon, it seems to suck, and result isnt even 100% sure at all. SenorSalvia, sorry about your friend, and happy to hear about your well being. About your friend, when your friend was diagnosed, i would suppose that was he already quite sick? Am i wrong?
as usual its nice to be informed, which in a couple days i will be more informed concerning my case.
and by next week i'll be chilling under coconut trees:)

thanks a lot for your time:)

[senorsalvia]

Sorry I can't be too specific about the friend that died.  Ya see, I call my ole time best friend about once or twice a year and he always has tales of somebody dying, someone getting busted, married etc...  One time, he remarked that "J" had gone to the doctor because he just did not feel too good.  They diagnosed Hep-C and the guy was gone in under 6 months....As far as him being my friend; well, uh, I was letting him stay at my house for free, but then I woke up with a concussion and missing $2,800 cash and my Sportster and pick-up truck...  The guy was like 6ft 5 and a bad ass ex con..  I was too trashed with the concussion to personally deal with it, but my bro put a team together and went and retrieved my truck and Harley... 'Course, in the 16 hours it took to run the guy to ground, he and his girlfriend managed to buy a bunch of new clothes and mainline the rest of my money.. :cry: ..

[fuzz]

sorry about that senor:( and glad you're fine now.

about my case. i got my liver echographie, which shows no anomaly whatsoever.
i got my blood test result. there are some anti virus, so something is happening. the level of of alat, agat, and anti virus is very low, so basically, for now its no worries (level of alat galat could be not related). for all i know, i've had this for years, with no symptoms.
so, i have no worries, i'll keep on living my good life the way i do, which is basically a quite healthy life style.

the symptoms would be jaunisse (getting yellow), white poop or brown urine. i think that before it gets to that, i'd do something about it anyhows ahahahah.

i will see in india/nepal with the docs i know. also i will see what my boss in goa says, since shes a specialist in homeopathic meds.
i will also take a cure of milk thistle:)

thankx for help:)