No drug charges for Amy Winehouse

[laughingwillow]

Trust me, stoney, I don't read much of what you post. I stopped hoping to find a pony in that pile of shite a long time ago.

lw

[Stonehenge]

lw, you have been warned several times about personal attacks. You keep doing snide remarks and so on. This is not helpful nor is it needed. I made no attacks against you in this thread or elsewhere. If you keep on it may be more than a warning next time even though you are a long time member.

[JRL]

Play nice guys. I consider this a great thread, we haven't had this much traffic in the Groove for years.

Stoney, have you gotten a chance to hear any Amy Winehouse tracks??
Besides her soulful singing her tunes and production harken back to the days of Motown and Phil Spector brought into the 21st century.

[laughingwillow]

Go ahead and put it on my permanent record stoney.

I'll leave the moderating to the big kids.

lw

[Syd]

speaking of records, i just got pulled over!

[Stonehenge]

JRL, no, I haven't heard any of her stuff yet. I don't want to go out and buy CD's of stuff I may not care for at all just to see what it's like. Perhaps streaming audio on the net? I don't know where to look for it and don't want to listen to hours of kid junk to hear one tune. Any suggestions?

The comparison has been made between Amy and Janis and others. Janis, Jimi and others died because they couldn't control their habits and drug use. I thought both of them were greats but we lost decades of music because of their personal failings. It's sad and tragic in a way. But when people act like spoiled children they have to pay the price and it becomes a tragi-comedy. We will watch the drama unfold with Amy.

I still don't buy the argument that wealth and fame are burdens. Fame is a somewhat double edged sword but money is what you do with it. If someone has a fast car and insists on speeding and getting into wrecks, the car was not the burden, their lack of maturity was. This is from someone who used to get their share of tickets so I know something about that. Don't blame the car, blame the person. Don't blame the wealth or fame, blame the person.

[Syd]

Rehab - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LD5sahXoj0U

http://www.myspace.com/amywinehouse

[JRL]

Syd thanks for the links. I just love her voice, and the arangments and production. She is the real thing, fo sho.

And Stoney think what you like, I will do the same.  Your stand seems a bit lacking in compassion and understanding, and maybe I am just a sucker for soulful women singers. I don't think I ever said it was the "fault" of fame and fortune, what I have been saying is that fame and fortune often takes people by surprise and is very difficult to handle. People go down that path and are confronted with many elements that are difficult to control. It ain't easy and if you can't see that so be it.

[JRL]

Her cover of this song tears my heart out, what a singer!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ludxpkyr ... re=related

[laughingwillow]

Thanks for those links, bro. Man, that sistah can sing. I sure hope she manages to get her personal act together..

lw

[JRL]

She is a major talent for sure, I hope she has a long career and a good life.

[Syd]

I just listened to 'Amy Winehouse - Will You Still Love Me Tomorrow' and I must say that is one helluva performance

[Stonehenge]

I can never get the u-tube stuff to play for me. I will have to work on that, there must be a way.

JRL, where do you get off saying I'm lacking in understanding etc?

"what I have been saying is that fame and fortune often takes people by surprise and is very difficult to handle. People go down that path and are confronted with many elements that are difficult to control."

What I see is that it takes a little bit of maturity and self control. Why should I feel sorry for someone who acts like a fool? When I act like a fool I pay the price. No one is sorry for me when I screw up. Why should fame or talent mean that someone gets a pass on all that?

Fame can go to your head and make you think your shit doesn't stink but it still does. Money can make you think you can do anything you want. In what way is someone acting like a fool or spoiled brat worthy of compassion when the local drunk who ties one on and gets into a fight or gropes a woman and gets arrested gets treated with scorn and distaste? Same thing

Celebrities need to be held to the same standard as anyone else. JRL, life itself is "very difficult to handle". Why should Amy be held to a lower standard than the local drunk or crackhead? This applies to all celebrities who act like fools. I'm not singling out Amy as being especially bad.

No one makes a person do the things they do. If they have a drinking problem, other drug problem, sex problem, maturity problem or whatever, they need to work on it. Poor, non celebrities with those problems go to AA, NA, or other similar programs. They have to stop doing the things they are addicted to. Someone who keeps on drinking, smoking crack or whatever they are hooked on, are not "battling" the problem. They are abdicating their responsibilities. Life has a way of punishing that no matter how famous the person is. If you don't realise that, you may be the one lacking in understanding.

[JRL]

Stoney you use I tunes? If so shoot me your email and I will buy you a few tunes. And I won't take no for an answer.

I don't think celebrities should be held to a lower standard, but is it fair to hold them to a higher standard? Would Amy have even been in court if some asshole hadn't planted a camera in her house??

I stand by what I said, a lack of understanding, compassion, experience or all of the above.

You ever have an addiction issue?? IMHO people that haven't have no business talking about it, unless they can come to the table with an open mind. Here is a hint: Law enforcment NEVER works.

[JRL]

Syd isn't that an amazing version. She has a way of touching me in places I didn't know I had places.

I got to thank you Stoney, without this thread I wouldn't have delved so deep into Any's catalouge, and thus missed out on some great music.

If you don't like Amy Winehouse you got a hole in your soul.