the problem?

[Cassie]

Good point; i agree.  We could certainly hold the discussion on the forum and that would allow everyone to have a say who wanted to, then draw consensus from that in the same way one does irl .... finding the points of agreement and working thru points of disagreement.

[cenacle]

what was lost along the way at SPF was trust, and communication...whether the conversation initiates at the chat or the forums is not so important as that it carries back and forth between them, and people feel like they are involved, their views heard...

and i personally would like the see the chat/forums/radio elements of the community more tightly integrated...betters each for the others...

[laughingwillow]

The only way I'd prolly be interested in chat is using the system I've seen on a couple of boards where the chat automatically streams on a forum's pages. Otherwise, I don't really see what chat has to do with a forum any more than a telephone does.

lw

[laughingwillow]

You are right about the communication problems, imo, cen. Discussing something in chat may be fine for some. But In the past, I got the idea that some decisions have been made in chat by eddy and various individuals on the fringe of this forum community. Anyway, plans get set in chat and then those who participate in the chat planning have a tendency to forget the forums once the "planning" is done. And then when the rubber hits the road, its the faithful forum members who were affected and not those mostly nterested in chatting on irc.

lw

[cenacle]

lw--

chat streaming into the boards? cool...do you know where that could be gotten?

i understand your concerns, though, and talking 'trust' isn't the existence of it...i mean this url only exists because of an apparent breach of it...only time and persistence can change the way things have come to seem...we'll just have to try anew and see how it goes, eh?  :wink:

[senorsalvia]

I'm probably in a definite minority position here, but do let me point out that if a member has a finite limited acess to computer time (such as senor at the library)..  Chat has virtually no value....  I try to hit all the forums in my limited time online, try to participate as able.  Can't see any decisions being made, then applied by only chatters as being valid for the board members as a whole.........  Don't get me wrong, I run my mouth whenever possible, it's just that; for me, chat is a non issue--------  senor

[JRL]

I see chat as an extension of the forum. and a more fleet way of communicating. Putting our heads together, or whatever.........
It's good place to bounce off each other, a step closer to eyeball to eyeball.

[Arjuna]

http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:HT ... l%22&hl=en


One I found.
Have we though about calling google to research thier cache for us? It'd prolly cost some, but worth a try. . .

[judih]

the old site sure was pretty.

that was just one small thread. wonder how many mgs there are floating around googlespace.

[Maïwa]

Quite Judy. The old site skin had a nice feel to it, when i arrived i immediatly  enjoyed the energy the contrast and content of course, let off....

 Their must be alot of posts from old forum, getting shoved all around the mycellium of the net..

  The chat  would involve in an exchange that naturally feels more direct and one point could be shared , amongst many, and quikly. Depending on the effect and importance of the subject judged upon by board members, if not intented for chat only , it should be taken to the forum also for discussions,evidently but fom what i know thats what going
on. Meetings and such, i guess would be wise to be taken in the chat rooms weve to offer, for a good discussion amongst board members , and then the posting of subject and conclusive thoughts could be posted.
The forum stays the mother ship of all, the core of the Spirit of the Plants no doubt...

      let's see how the forum evolves in all, with the new arrangements
                                               when stable i guess their would be room  
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