Warren Haynes

[JRL]

Ok, so what do deadheads have against this dude? I think he is one of the most talented, soulful guys to show up in many a year.

Ditto Steve Kimock

Please explain.

[laughingwillow]

Why do you ask? I'd rather not criticize anyone for their playing.

I can only speak for myself, but I will say that I like Phil's current line up better now than when Warren was on stage with them. I realize the guy is talented, but his playing is way too up front for my taste. His style grates on me, to be honest. A classic gat strangler, imo. I guess I just get a little tired of all the squealing. On the other hand, a few of my most psychedelic experiences have occured with him on stage with Phil.

Btw, I wouldn't cross the street for free tix to watch the Mule....

lw

[TroutMask]

Warren is too Southern Rock for me, with Phil but especially in Mule. Steve Kimock: I have seen him several times and he just doesn't seem to click with the band. Maybe if he talked or sang or something. He plays guitar nice; actually I don't mind listening to stuff like KVHW or when he was with Phil. I guess I just don't like seeing him live.

I really like the playing and stage style of Jimmy Herring, though. I wish he as in the latest version of Jazz is Dead, who's playing here at the end of the month.

-TM

[laughingwillow]

I liked Kimock's playing with Ratdog. He fits in nicely and si a littel too subdued, if anything.

Jimmy Herring is the guy I like to hear with Phil. But he gets a little drowned out and stepped on when playing with Warren, imo.

lw

[JRL]

Hmm. Interesting. My take on Herring is that he is more of a Garcia imitator even than Kimock.

I hear great passion from Warren, he's a great blues player. Ever hear Govt. Mule's Catfish Blues? Seems like he is channeling Muddy and Jimi, I got the old chicken skin effect for sure from that. That's the test, does it make my arm hair stand up.

Did you see Phil with Scofield? That I gotta hear.

[JRL]

BTW I just don't get Ratdog. I saw the first version with Johnny Johnson, and they couldn't hold the crowds attention.

Then once when I was channel surfing I saw a Ratdog video ona heavy metal show. Again, it was lukewarm at best. Is Weir OK? Or does he have some major health issues? He sure looks old these days, but he's just 58 if I remember right.

Inquiring minds want to know.

[JRL]

Guys, did I tell you I was gonna play with Melvin Seals a week from Friday? I played with Martin Fierro on Halloween.

[laughingwillow]

Playing with Melvin, eh? Right on! I rode an elevator with him once after a Jerry show in Tahoe. hehe

I didn't much care for the earliest version of RatDog, but the last half-dozen or so times that we've caught them live have been quality shows, for the most part. (Except for the time he opened up for Phil at RedRocks.) Anyway, I've had a few psychedelic experiences with Bobby's band that rival most anything I've been dealt by da dead or phil.

Btw, I don't hear Jimmy Herring copying Jerry as much as filling the space He used to occupy in a similar manner. Jimmy is more jazzy than Jerry, imo. Also, neither Jerry nor Jimmy dominate the band's mix the way Warren does, as far as I'm concerned.

lw

[JRL]

I hear a lot of Jerry in the way Herring bends his notes, that is a big part of any guitar stranglers voice. Having said all that, what are we all but a bundle of influences?

I guess I got on this tangent reading the endless palaver at the Internet Archives sight. Methinks alot of these uberheads cannot see the forest for the trees.

[laughingwillow]

LOL Some of those dick-heads on that site annoy me, too, bro.

lw

[JRL]

You guys like Derek Trucks?

[laughingwillow]

Oh yeah. Derek Trucks can lay it down.

lw

[TroutMask]

I don't know enough of Derek to have an opinion. I think I saw him a couple times with Allmans?? If so, that stuff was good for sure.

-TM

[laughingwillow]

I've seen trucks sit in with Phil a time or two and am pretty sure we've even caught a set or two of his out here on the edge of the prairie a few years back. I really like the middle eastern infused grooves he brings to the table.

lw

[JRL]

Yeah me too. I have a great version of Mr. PC the Coltrane minor blues by Derek. It is so intense it's like if Coltrane played slide guitar.