Human Migration and Space?

[Maïwa]

 Humans amongst most of animal life on earth depend on migration for their survvival. The facts about our co-existance , like  that human population exceeds the worlds ressources available if this way of life continues.

Normally the people or species, roam the land for another area will the deprived land grows once again,with time. We now expand with agriculture, human shelter and of course deforestation.

If humans were to halt their ways and end all
environnemetal  intents for 7 years, it is believed the earth could restore to some point.

Before we ever think of other places and migrational quests, we must co-existe and give back what our land gave for moons and moons.
Perhaps space exploration is a human form of migration, as many cultures spread for the stars and the sun, like plants to the same.
Mayan, egyptian and we now believe its to be a material quest, well they obviously knew already, but we always have to seek out.

Visionaries are capable of discerning a future when societies travel among the planets and stars. But convincing taxpayers, policymakers and the general public would be difficult.

Perhaps the best way to think about this issue is to approach it from a different perspective -- one that looks from afar and focuses in.

We have about a million years of evidence showing that humans (and our near-ancestors such as Homo erectus) have roamed extensively across the globe. Migration is a key aspect of human behavior.

Logic and the animalistic: We are to seek the boundaries of space when weve bettered ourselves and were less ignorant and weve healed our world. Ingratitude fills our land as the greedy rub hands looking at Mars.

In do time, if with good intent space exploration would indeed be intriging.

 Cheers Whiteshadow

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[CJ]

Jus a quick note,and I have to finish the article,But I renewed my Scientific  American, and it has an article about a homo erectus race in or by indonesia,just 13,000 years ago. Long after it was presumed that Sapiens were on their (OUR) own.

      It was an earlier migration. Homo Erectus,and possibly related groups,probably out of Africa, almost verified now,though there is still some competing Ideas on the final world groupings.


     They had made that far,(not unknown), but survived to that recently, (much more surprising!)

     Back to the article,and another story of our wanderlust. Note these people only stood three meters (no,feet ,explanation below) high,limited food supply, and island bound.

[transcend]

uhhh... I think you mean 3 feet high.

[CJ]

Yes I did! Too much of a a hurry ,And wrote the wrong damned word.

     I wasn`t confused on meaning,but I won`t edit my statement,since not thinking can be as wrong as thinking incorrectly.

     Even then I was making an estimation that still might be somewhat off.

     A meter ,since I am still not good at that,is something I think like 30 or32 inches. I was jus figuring,and would prolly not be in trouble if I said foot.

     But then,I am used to mostly thinking in terms of inches feet yards,etc.

      I was thinking near three feet.

     Actually,I will add to origonal post,and point out i have been'corrected' .

     Slap slap.

     Thankyou for the point.

[domino]

i too read about these diminutive people.  The natives had long had stories about the 'little people''.  They were passed down for generations.  One wonders what they would have looked like and what it would have been like to relate with them.  Perhaps they had a part in the makeup of other races of people.  Could we have intermingled?  Did we?

[CJ]

There is debate about that ,domino. People think they see neandertal traits in us etc. There has been some successful DNA testing,and so far,negative.

     I even think they dug up a skeleton,or parts of, in a cave in Spain I believe,that for all the world,looked like a hybrid. Both Sapian and neandertal traits are clearly evident.

     And for some,who should have their science checked,they project the neandertal as the darkside in us. If anything,that would be the primal reptillian brain,and after all,it`s only trying to do it`s job. Mabe once or twice, one can thank that reptillian brain for being alive. Other times,it filters through the reasoning proccess, for whatever effect.

     Mixing, well,we can only quess. But it has been put forth,and I do wonder,that homo sapians,and futhermore,homo sapians of perhaps a cirtain group,tribe...mutation, was so different from the 'others',that she/he did not mix.  

     There might have been,in many cases,compitition for the best areas(valleys,plains) for game. Hell,one species might have been regarded as food. neandertal it seems,wasn`t above butchering it`s own. Cut marks in the correct places on meat bearing bones, Charred and split for marrow,also makes one wonder. So,if you are very small,and there are one,perhaps two other species of Homo, and hungry ones to boot....

   Especially in a food chain on an island. I wonder how one species might view a much smaller, different one,where the local fare was giant rat,or a pygmy elephant. remember,they could not prove those advanced tools belonged to h. Floresiensis.

     Morever,this little hominid seems to have resembled primitive homo erectus,rather than the more advanced H.erectus population that also inhabited this part of the world. That implies an earlier migration. Some of these Paleoanthropologists were actually thinking in terms of Australopithecus,which would be a contorted situation indeed,in terms of primitivenss,and simply,..time. morever,Australpethicus was never thought to have left Africa.

     Domino,It`s being wondered how well we got along with the 'others'. Mabe we can use how well we get along with ourselves,as a benchmark.

 heh heh.

      But wouldn`t it be exciting,by what the article implies in the end,that these,or another hominind,may be buried alive in remote areas of the Rainforests, in Southeast Asia.?? I would love the chance to treat something right,for once. It would be hard not to want to observe. But leave it alone,don`t shoot one for a 'specimen'(science is not everything,it`s jus` for right now ,a good- wanna -be) Try to observe,perhaps even communicate,from a distance. Mabe,jus observe. We could be bringing even desease to such a creature,we get too close.

     But the conjecture is interesting,that three different groupings of'homo' lived in proximity to each other. Whether they 'got it on', well I have the bad feeling,we showed our usual attitude of Us/Them. Quite possibly,they were made the same way,it`s a survival trait also,besides of social and culteral significance.

    P.S. sorry about wandering off topic of thread