This really pisses me off

[Veracohr]

Read this article. A couple got divorced, and part of the divorce decree said they weren't allowed to expose their son to non-mainstream religions. This makes me so angry.

Judge: Parents can't teach pagan beliefs

[typonaut]

And he can't watch non-Fox news either.

Link leads to "non-valid article."

[TroutMask]

The answer is quite obvious from the link:

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Hm...

-TM

[judih]

Link

try this

//http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050526/NEWS01/505260481

[JRL]

Everyday the US becomes more theocratic. God save us from your followers!

[CJ]

I agree. The fact that it is classic knee-jerk only describes half the situation. The judge obviously did no research,had no intentions of having the obligation to do such,and probably assumed the worst(satanism?).The end result was the dubious binding law to it.

         As for the judge,he simply isn`t fit to be one.  The world has many more threats than a 'white magic' belief system.

      I read of a thirteen year old getting beatened by a gang at a children`s center today. Join or get your head kicked in.So many things are so negative for children ,especially if Mom and Dad are not in the 'middleclass' mainstream, as oppossed to inclusion in a belief system that is off center.  Bottom line,the judge was more concerned about his little corner of reality,than the realities many children may face growing up today in the US, as elswhere..

[Veracohr]

Sorry, I fixed the link.

[Veracohr]

What pisses me off so much about this story is that neither of the parents asked for this, it was just a case of some stupid people trying to take advantage of a situation to impose their values on other people. At least, that's how I see it.

[TooStonedToType]

Alisa G. Cohen, an Indianapolis attorney representing Jones, "Didn't the judge get the memo that it's not up to him what constitutes a valid religion?"

It seems like the judges working on the peyote cases didn't get that memo either!

[laughingwillow]

I think this quote of a quote taken from another thread says it all...

In federalist paper number 69, Alexander Hamilton concludes his examination of the differences between the "qualified" powers of the US presidency and the "absolute" powers of the king of Great Britain: "The one has no particle of spiritual jurisdiction; the other is the supreme head and governor of the national church! What answer shall we give to those who would persuade us that things so unlike resemble each other? The same that ought to be given to those who tell us that a government, the whole power of which would be in the hands of the elective and periodical servants of the people, is an aristocracy, a monarchy, and a despotism."

"This one has no particle of spiritual jurisdiction....."

How much more clear could the founders of our country get on this issue?

lw

[Stonehenge]

Just another idiotic judge afflicted with robeitis. That's the disease where you think you are god. That ruling will be overturned if appealed. But the parents probably don't have the money to go through the system. They can teach their kids anything they like and no one is likely to try to enforce the judge's idiotic ruling. I'm sure no prosecutor in his right mind would.

[typonaut]

Veracohr said: it was just a case of some stupid people trying to take advantage of a situation to impose their values on other people

There's a lot of that lately.

Has there been a successful appeal by now? Seems to me the judge should be disqualified.

[space]

Ah, Indy, my hometown...to visit there is to step through the portal of the Time Machine, going back, way way back, long before the Constitution.  Those parents are lucky they weren't burned at the stake.

When I was a teen there, I attended open-to-the-public political meetings of the Black Panthers, once in my Dad's car (gotta go to the library, Pop).  The local gestapo recorded his license plate, then stopped and hassled him the next day.

One of the highlights of my teen years, actually.  Gave the old man some insight into how the po-leece state works.

[DrYRHead]

That is very much in violation of religious freedom.