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and wow, this post of me wondering if anyone could contribute some helpful hints and tips turned into me having to defend my level of understanding for such substances. lol :?

Merkaba,

well,  smoked the dmt (with 3 other friends in my midst, as a trip sitter is recomended for your first time).  Almost as soon as i exhaled my second hit, it hit me...everything around me started emmiting white light, everything was soooo bright.  after admireing the purple, red and orange patterns that formed as all of the trees, i laid back and closed my eyes.  I was then confronted by a small, black, humanlike crtitter, and a taller, lady like creature with green skin, a brown robe and red eyes.  i was expecting them to speak, but all i heard was a loud, vibrating, high pitched noise...they came towards me and then just stood there looking at me, in a totally black atmosphere.  After a few minutes of aww and amazement, i opend my eyes, to find the same (bright white) atmosphere i settled into...after looking around at my friends smiling, i just admired things, the trip wared off over the next six minutes.  it was more shocking than scary, i kept my cool, and never really thought "boy i wish i was sober!", and yes it was worth it, and yes i would do it again...[moderator edit:  I'm not sure of the laws in canada, but I removed potentially incrimating info here - not allowed on this board]  

senior,

you dont find salvia extract to be a wierd experience?

i have heard it is very similar in many ways to dmt.  i have tried dmt before, a self extraction method from phalaris Ad.  Everyone that i have talked to said, it is just as profound, but more natural hallucinations instead of such alien forms.

agreed, but, it still doesnt mean I dont "understand the power of this substance", which, I believe I do.

"I doubt that."

w/e man...and yes, I will post back.

thanks alot seniorsalvia .

And dont worry, i have been reading experience reports and recieving advice from people etc...I understand the power of this form of substance.

Hello,

       I will be recieving 2g of 5X salvia extract and 1g of 20X salvia extract in a few days.  I am very excited as I believe this will help me achieve my long awaited breakthrough.

       I was wondering what is the prefered method of ingestion for this extract.  I have heard some people put it on top of normal strength leaves and use a normal pipe or bong, but i have also heard of people using a meth/crack or bulb pipe and smoking it raw.  I am looking to create as little amount of smoke as possible, but, whichever is the "best" way will by my route of ingestion.  

thnx alot, and any other suggestions about extract will be greatly appreciated.  

The only one whose brain is bleeding is that of your friends.

boomer2

agreed  

sry to bring this up again...but i have tried it again a few more times (3 or 4) and have felt little or no effects...how many times should i expect to "break-through".  I use a med. stemed pipe and i have tryed a short wooden pipe.  I have used a normal lighter, butane lighter, and on occasion a butane tourch lighter.  I hate to sound disrespectful to the plant, cause thats the last thing I want to do.  I understand the power that this plant harvests, its a power I would like to experience.  

sorry for the inconvienience  :cry:

"Tell me now; you don't actually hang around people like this do 'ya.....??  --- sal"

haha...no sir, i sure dont...he was telling me this on msn one night.  He was at one of my friends house that was going in on shrooms with me and said this, obviously to try and steer us clear.  I dident believe him, and redicule him often ever since the incident, though he still insists its fact.  :roll:

"Sure it's sensical. Your brain bleeds - you trip. It scabs over - you stop tripping. A scap falls off - flashback. hahahahahahaha"

clever...very clever  :lol:

is this even sensical enough to be classified as a myth, because ive never heard this before, nor have I read this anywhere.

:roll: ...thought id recieve a reply like this...i take that as the guy who said that was wrong  :lol:

Hello all,

as you proly know, i am new to shrooms.  I have a friend (well, not so much friend, more of aquaintence) who says shrooms (in general) make your brain bleed during your high.  He states that this is what causes the hallucination.  Now, i thought this was absolutely absurd, because as far as i knew, shrooms were realitively safe, and non-toxic, causing little, or no damage.  So please, answer this question, hopefully proving my sully aquaitence wrong.

Do shrooms make your brain bleed?

p.s as much information on this topic as possible would be greatly helpful!

thnx alot

hey man,

im in ontario, southern ontario to be exact...where abouts are you?

Try a wide bowled short stemmed pipe, packed as tight as you can get it, take long slow giant hits, all  within  one or two minutes...holding them in as long as possilble, 20-30 seconds.  Packing the pipe will help keep the coal a bit cooler.....even pack more on top as you  go.  Longer stems may/maynot let the salvinorin A cool and precipitate out onto the pipe walls.  Many people use bongs.....(I hate them) but they might for you.

Quidding is a tricky method, one which I've never really mastered....probably need to be more calm and focused.

thnx alot