Help A Noobie Out Pls!

[CanadianGuy]

Hello All!

As you may have noticed, im new to salvia.  Not to long ago me and two friends (and a sitter) attempted to journey into the "other world", if i may.  We tryed the quid method first, nothing happend, then we tried smoked, nothing again except for a slight body buzz.  Now, dont get flustered, i understand its the reverse tolerence thing going on, my friends were not aware and were a little purterbed until i explained it to them.  I intend to smoke it again, very shortly too.  I use a long pipe, and will be using plain dried leaves.  Is there any recomendations you have for me and my friends...techniques or what to expect for a second time.  

Thnx Alot!

[CanadianGuy]

also, can you mix plain dried leaf with canabis? if so, what will the effects be?

thnx again

[lollipop guild]

quote cg: also, can you mix plain dried leaf with canabis? if so, what will the effects be?

What happens in that scenario is that a person is sucked into salvia space and wakes up in jail. Luckily the salvia afterglow will normally last until bail has been posted.

Sit down with a pipe. Don't pass it between friends. Give everyone their own or go one at a time. Load the bowl with plain sally leaf and smoke it down, taking as big of hits as other-worldly possible. You have to want to get off and its all or nothing the first few times. Smoke that pipe non-stop until you become physically unable continue. Then sit back, close your eyes and try to relax.......

guild rep #13

[CanadianGuy]

"What happens in that scenario is that a person is sucked into salvia space and wakes up in jail. Luckily the salvia afterglow will normally last until bail has been posted."

Thnx...i think :?

[lollipop guild]

quote guild rep #13: Sit down with a pipe. Don't pass it between friends. Give everyone their own or go one at a time. Load the bowl with plain sally leaf and smoke it down, taking as big of hits as other-worldly possible. You have to want to get off and its all or nothing the first few times. Smoke that pipe non-stop until you become physically unable continue. Then sit back, close your eyes and try to relax.......

guild rep #26

[lollipop guild]

"What happens in that scenario is that a person is sucked into salvia space and wakes up in jail. Luckily the salvia afterglow will normally last until bail has been posted."

Thnx...i think :?

Yeah, the above usually only happens in civilized countries..

guild rep #13

[Jupe]

Try a wide bowled short stemmed pipe, packed as tight as you can get it, take long slow giant hits, all  within  one or two minutes...holding them in as long as possilble, 20-30 seconds.  Packing the pipe will help keep the coal a bit cooler.....even pack more on top as you  go.  Longer stems may/maynot let the salvinorin A cool and precipitate out onto the pipe walls.  Many people use bongs.....(I hate them) but they might for you.

Quidding is a tricky method, one which I've never really mastered....probably need to be more calm and focused.

[CanadianGuy]

Try a wide bowled short stemmed pipe, packed as tight as you can get it, take long slow giant hits, all  within  one or two minutes...holding them in as long as possilble, 20-30 seconds.  Packing the pipe will help keep the coal a bit cooler.....even pack more on top as you  go.  Longer stems may/maynot let the salvinorin A cool and precipitate out onto the pipe walls.  Many people use bongs.....(I hate them) but they might for you.

Quidding is a tricky method, one which I've never really mastered....probably need to be more calm and focused.

thnx alot  

[Syd]

relaxation is paramount, of which i have not yet mastered

[lollipop guild]

TPacking the pipe will help keep the coal a bit cooler.....even pack more on top as you  go.

Sal A is said to burn at high temps, so we're not sure a cooler coal is desired.

guild reps in training #.33 and 1/3

[TroutMask]

I torch the living hell out of the salvia if/when I smoke through a pipe. On the other hand, I have also had results from a salvia joint, though it may have been other joint ingredients that caused the stage to shoot out at me as long tubes. A friend reports good results with a pure salvia joint shared among friends. Not sure what's going on there...

-TM

[lollipop guild]

quote trout mask: though it may have been other joint ingredients that caused the stage to shoot out at me as long tubes.

The guild calls the adding of other ingredients, "circufication" from the root word to circufy.

Guild meetings crashed by elves are a hoot. Back in the old days, there was always lively debate between the pro-cool ash elves and the hot ash burned by the guild members on sally outings. However, that problem has reportedly been rectified with a little abra-kadabra on the part of Allla Kazam...

puff

guild rep #9

[Jupe]

Redgreenvines(@E-DOT) has suggested that the high temp thing is more a function of lab work, than actual realworld smoking reveals.  The reason being the act of sucking on a pipe lowers the vapor pressure of the bowl, which decrease the vaporization temperature of whatever is being smoked.  (think trying to boil water at 10,000 ft)  I've used matches and regular lighters, and torch lighters....all seems the same...'cept smoking a cooler mixture is much easier, you can take bigger hits...(that alone might compensate for lack of sal A burning....I don't know).....but it sure is easy and smoke tastes great.   Whatever works!!

[lollipop guild]

Interesting, jupe.

We also  have no problem with using matches, joints, bongs, pipes, etc, either.

One guild member recently attempted to smoke a small amount of leaf slowly, taking a few small tokes while engaging in conversation for only the most subtle of effects. (the other person wanted to smell the leaf burning before deciding to smoke.) But the guild member in question nearly ended up on the floor after a few tiny hits.

On the other hand, the last guild member to try sally for the first time probably ingested 15 - 20 hits of the same leaf to little effect....

guild chairman

[CanadianGuy]

sry to bring this up again...but i have tried it again a few more times (3 or 4) and have felt little or no effects...how many times should i expect to "break-through".  I use a med. stemed pipe and i have tryed a short wooden pipe.  I have used a normal lighter, butane lighter, and on occasion a butane tourch lighter.  I hate to sound disrespectful to the plant, cause thats the last thing I want to do.  I understand the power that this plant harvests, its a power I would like to experience.  

sorry for the inconvienience  :cry: