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"No higher calling" enlist now

Started by TooStonedToType, June 29, 2005, 08:27:43 AM

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TooStonedToType

I don't know if any of you caught president bush on TV last night.  We made the unfortunate mistake of using "terrorist" as our drinking word.

Still don't think we missed much.

Thought it interesting a supposedly religious man would use this choice of words:  "And to those watching tonight who are considering a military career, there is no higher calling than service in our armed forces."

Is he going to go back to calling the "war on terror" a crusade?
...and as if from the inception of time itself I realized I was and had been for sometime, elsewhere, elsewhen or somehow, quite seriously, otherwise...

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#1
Quote from: "TooStonedToType""And to those watching tonight who are considering a military career, there is no higher calling than service in our armed forces."

His aim is low  :P
\"When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro.\"

JRL

#2
Boy, was that scary performance or what? So now we are in Iraq because they share an "ideology" with the 9/11 attackers.

Seems like religous facist imperialism is what our country is all about.

Regime change now! Impeach Bush!
a group of us, on peyote, had little to share with a group on marijuana

the marijuana smokers were discussing questions of the utmost profundity and we were sticking our fingers in our navels & giggling
                 Jack Green

Bushpig

#3
Your president and our prime minister are criminals...worse than that they are traitors.  Lets not beat about the bush ( excuse the pun ).  These men and there regimes are takening mankind down a path we should not be treading...where are the demonstrations in the street that we once have seen ?  What will it take for everyone to shout NO!


Boooshpig

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Quote from: "Bushpig"What will it take for everyone to shout NO! Boooshpig

...a D.R.A.F.T.
\"When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro.\"

laughingwillow

#5
Or maybe just a continued downward spiral of our economy will be what it takes to get more po' folk to enlist. That would be more politically correct than stoking the fear lurking in the corner that rhymes with K.R.A.F.T.....

Cause there's going to come a time when the current batch of soldiers from the national guard reach retirement age and are no longer fit for continued tours of combat duty in the middle east....

lw
Lost my boots in transit, babe,
smokin\' pile of leather.
Nailed a retread to my feet
and prayed for better weather...

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#6
Quote from: "laughingwillow"Or maybe just a continued downward spiral of our economy will be what it takes to get more po' folk to enlist. That would be more politically correct than stoking the fear lurking in the corner that rhymes with K.R.A.F.T.....

Cause there's going to come a time when the current batch of soldiers from the national guard reach retirement age and are no longer fit for continued tours of combat duty in the middle east....

lw

A lousy job market has always been an advantage to the recruiters.  As were many petty crime laws--not a few GIs entered the Vietnam era military in lieu of doing time:  unless their family had the means to hire counsel and pay fines, of course.

Or maybe now it's clear why Bush has favored measures allowing freer immigration from south of the border (which I also support, obviously for different reasons):  you don't have to be a citizen to serve in the U.S. military...and, I believe, some Congressman has floated the notion of citizenship in return for service.

As Lucifer told Yahweh about Job, if you think he's immune to tribulation,  "Reach out and touch his person.."  It was the draft that radicalized millions of American youths and families, not a righteous view of our Southeast Asian imperialism.  That brought the war back home at least as much as the nightly news.

If we keep expenditures high in the Middle East, eventually the economic steroids will kick in, just like they did in the 60s-70s, and it will look and feel like real affluence.  But it will be blood money.
\"When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro.\"

TroutMask

#7
I agree completely. Do not use terrorist as a drinking word during a Bush speech.

-TM
I am an agnostic; I do not pretend to know what many ignorant men are sure of. - Clarence Darrow

CJ

#8
"It was the draft that radicalized millions of american youth and families"

     That`s how I remember it. Awarness of the world theator very def. came second,but did occur,when the draft was threatening.

      One then learned of the history of Vietnam,w/French colonialism,and whatnot. It did not invoke a positive view of Ho Chi Minh,but niether did it make our position seem tenable to loose ones personal life over. This was not WW2,or even the Korean war.

     And this is essentially what we have done now,gone on another adventure.In the proccess,wev`e forgot a hell of a lession. For presidential pride,for oil,but  cirtaintly not for W.M.D.`s And Now,Bush is going to make the linkw/ terrorism, that was always there,but now a card being played because all others have lost credibility.

      People are brave. They were brave back in the Vietnam era, and fought courageously even when the truth was despairing. After all, what high ground execpt the position taken or held,in that war.  But even that sentiment will eventually call for an accounting. I jus` hope not too much damage,economic and/or morale,is done emperor Bush ,for The U.S. to recover from.

     Vietnam was suppossed to make us f*****g wiser than we have been.

Ashoka

#9
Bush will not get a warm welcome when he arrives here..  

http://www.stopbush.dk/index_en.htm

The above is just one of the many grassroot organisations preparing demonstrations.

But the demonstrations will probably not get media attention in the US, because Bush and his croons have forced it upon the weak and meek Danish government to keep the demonstrations far away from the Bush parade (and thereby the media).

laughingwillow

#10
ashoka: That's been his strategy all along. His people simply demand the local gubmit submit to their methods of containing protesters. At least here in this battleground state of Iowa.

lw
Lost my boots in transit, babe,
smokin\' pile of leather.
Nailed a retread to my feet
and prayed for better weather...

TooStonedToType

#11
When bush defiled the soil here at Red Rocks, you had to be a registered republican and get tickets in advance to be admitted. I was thinking I know people that could probably get me in, if I got a hair cut, but then what? In such limited numbers, you show a sign or boo and your hand-cuffed and escorted off the premises.

PS:  Not to worry.  Teams of hippies have been smudging the area night and day since then.  The bad vibes should be almost gone by Phil and Phiends.
...and as if from the inception of time itself I realized I was and had been for sometime, elsewhere, elsewhen or somehow, quite seriously, otherwise...

JRL

#12
Don't know why it didn't get more play: When Condi Rice's speach was interuppted by the seizing of protesters and she said something like "Someday in Iraq people will be able to speak their minds"

One of you guys might have the real quote.

One way or another this darkness got to give

I can't remember a darker time for this country
a group of us, on peyote, had little to share with a group on marijuana

the marijuana smokers were discussing questions of the utmost profundity and we were sticking our fingers in our navels & giggling
                 Jack Green

laughingwillow

#13
quote jrl: I can't remember a darker time for this country...

Its sort of funny that you just brought that up....... I received an email the other day from anotha brotha. As an aside, he mentioned how he had his doubts as to your (jrl's) recollection of ANY of the 60's. And I thought he was joking until just now. hehe

I still see the late 60's early 70's as more depressingly dire. And back then, the general population knew the WOD (cannabis, especially) was bogus. There were gubmit documented studies that backed the fact up. Legalization was eminent until the reality of Nixon was fully felt on the home front. And then there was the reality that rhymed with K.R.A.F.T.

Unfortunately, we still prolly have a ways to go before the general public of this bought-and-paid-for Republic get too worked up over events happening half a globe away. The end seems to justify the means, so far.....  

I'm still not sure if'n the reality of the new style of world-warfare has sunk in yet, though. Our actions may very well galvanize people from many regions of the world against us, regardless of national origin. In essence, it would seem that we are in the process of busting up a giant hive of (mostly) peaceful bees while trying to swat a few aggressive ones out of existance. Or more like swatting at a hive of bees armed with cell phones who manage to call all of the other (mostly) peaceful hives around the world and give the news that ends up pissing them all off....... (Mostly)

What was the question, again?

lw
Lost my boots in transit, babe,
smokin\' pile of leather.
Nailed a retread to my feet
and prayed for better weather...