BP Oil Spill Disaster in Gulf of Mexico

[Glider]

Never been to Mexico.

I would argue that the political unrest in Mexico started well before a single generation ago.

[dendro]

well,...yeah, that's true!

Southern Mexico and Guatemala have had an extremely hard time for a lotta years. But many Guatemalans still want to cross the border, just to find a day's labor.

[dendro]

http://www.foxbusiness.com/story/market ... ts--coots/

How coincidentally fortuitous for Halliburton...to buy an emergency response oilfield control company, just before the biggest blowout in history.

Tinfoil hat wearers might wonder if they took advantage of insider trading info?

Kinda like Silverstein at the WTC...

To quote the immortal Ralph Wiggum: "Salvia makes my hair tingle."  :roll:

[Glider]

With the large number of acquisitions Halliburton makes, I again find it difficult to believe in conspiracy.  Sooner or later they are bound to make a timely move.  An even larger number of acquisitions don't pan out, are dissolved and merged into other departments, and we just never give them a second thought.

[dendro]

Yer prolly right. It's just that this "spill" can legitimately be called the "Dick Cheney oil catastrophe", and everything about that guy and his buddies the Bushes (they are all big owners of Halliburton, and not just as a stock position) is stinky-hinky.  :mrgreen:

In other news, it appears that the attempt at top kill has failed, at least so far. BP reports it is trying to pump and place rougher trash into the wellhead, now that the use of "mud" has been unable to stop the flow of oil from the pipe.  :bfrown:  :bnope:

update: NY Times reports that top kill efforts have been suspended yet again, as both mud and "junk shots" have failed to cap the flow from the well.

[dendro]

http://pesn.com/2010/05/27/9501657_Gulf ... _cover-up/

What are they doing down there that they don't want us to see?

The so-called "live feed" (with clock continuing in real time) is only a 15sec loop.

And check the link showing Goldman Sachs (aka "the Boss") shorted TransOcean just days before the event, thus again reaping huge profits on this disaster. Like they did with airline stocks before 9/11, and with the real estate market bubble. Those guys at GS are sure smart!

[dendro]

Goldman Sachs sold 44% of their position in BP 3 weeks prior to the blowout. Those guys sure are smart!

http://moneycentral.msn.com/ownership?H ... &Symbol=BP

[dendro]

What happened to this thread? Am I the thread killer here? What'd I say, to kill this thread?  :oops:

Not much has improved in this oil spill situation in a month. Worse than ever, in fact. Still lies and propaganda, all the way down, as they say. Fake "cleanup efforts", press blackouts, private policing abuse, federal obfuscation and bureaucratic stonewalling.

Is Obama waiting, letting things get worse, to promote his highly vaunted and dearly wanted (by the super rich) "cap and trade" personal investment?

[Glider]

Yes sir, Mr Dendro.  We understood your coded message.

G out!

[dendro]

Yes sir, Mr Dendro.  We understood your coded message.

G out!

Yeah, the elephant is bigger than the room! We should prolly close this forum...

Or ban dendro!  :twisted:  :evil:

[laughingwillow]

LOL Ban you? Now the talk is getting REALLY crazy....

lw

[dendro]

well, I gotta do something to raise the crazy bar. We need more crazy!  :lol:

What's next? Should I become a fed apologist and cheerleader? That could work, might perk up this forum too.  :tea:

[senorsalvia]

Dendro as FED apologist :wink:  :roll: ----  There goes the neighborhood!!!

[dendro]

Dendro as FED apologist :wink:  :roll: ----  There goes the neighborhood!!!

Aw cummon, it could be fun!  :lol:

So I read that the gulf loop current has turned into an eddy in the gulf, and is not feeding all the warm water as per usual into the gulf stream. If so, might be good news for the east coasters, as they might receive less of the spilling oil. But it could affect (as in, cool) the climate in Europe?

Also. this from Mr. Simmons on CA NPR:

John Kaminski – via Rebel News July 18, 2010

Oil industry insider Matt Simmons blew the whistle on the made-for-TV capping of the so-called oil leak in the Gulf of Mexico Thursday, July 15, during an interview on KPFK radio, the NPR station in Los Angeles.

Simmons, former energy adviser to the second President Bush, explained that according to his reading of the data from NOAA, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, capping of the so-called riser and the subsequent announcement by U.S. President Obama was "the biggest con job we've ever seen."

Simmons, creator of an investment bank catering to oil companies, told radio host Ian Masters that the real problem continuing to gush oil into the Gulf was not the 6-inch "riser" that apparently has been capped amid much TV hoopla, but that an open hole or cauldron perhaps up to 10 miles distant from where British Petroleum's cameras are focused which continues to spew 120,000 BARRELS per day, and that BP's much publicized effort to drill relief wells in what the company says is an effort to stop the flow of oil is nothing but a cynical publicity stunt.

"The dimensions of this lie are beyond belief," said Simmons, explaining that the idea of a relief well is "tricky at best," since trying to hit a pipe of less than a foot in diameter 35,000 feet below the surface of the Gulf may be entirely futile because the casing of the original pipe is not even there, having blown away at some point.

But Simmons noted that both BP and Obama continue to deny that this open hole, or cauldron, even exists, even though Simmons and others insist the NOAA data from satellites prove by speed of flow and depth of light that the amount of oil that has been flowing through the on-camera riser could not possibly account for the amount of oil that has spilled into the Gulf.

"The riser is totally irrelevant," Simmons stressed, adding "and there's no way to cap the open hole." He explained that BP continues to deny the open hole exists and theorizes the continuing flow of oil into the Gulf is really just the residue from what has already been spilled during the first 90 days of the disaster.

"There is denial that there's even a problem," Simmons said. "In about a month or two people will realize that this actually was the biggest con job we've ever seen."

Simmons also noted an additional danger. "What the researchers now believe is that basically is that between 4000 and 4500 below the ocean floor lies an oil lake that's somewhere between 100 and 120 miles wide and it's about 4500 feet deep. It's this toxic waste and crude and it's releasing methane gases that are absolutely lethal which is why all the fish and dolphins and sharks and whales are dying. And workers too, which is why so many have gotten sick, or maybe really sick.

"The health problems are so serious," Simmons said. "When you inhale methane you just die."

The only possible solution, Simmons insists, "is a small diameter low level nuclear device. They insert it down the well 18000 feet, and set it off. It will fuse the rock and glass, and it's totally safe, three miles under the seabed."

Radio host Masters asked, "When do we get the truth?"

Simmons responded, "Basically the walls are starting to cave in on BP. There are only so many things you can make up."

"But here's the really scary thing," Simmons told the Pacifica radio audience. "If we have a storm, let alone a hurricane, what hurricanes basically do is they churn up cold water from the base of the Gulf.

This time it's not going to be cold water, it's going to be black poisonous crude. It will also shut down the 18 power plants along the Gulf Coast.

"So we're going to entrap 20 million people in harm's way."

Mr. Simmons is quite the alarmist...  :beek:

Meanwhile, BP continues to dump imported sand on the fouled beaches in the night, and all their reports are that the water is safe for swimming.  :blaugh:  :bnope:

[Bushpig]

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