Should I try her?

[apex]

I havent yet tried lady salvia... and Im nervous and am not sure if i want to. The other topic about how that guy slipped into another dimension and needed help getting back scared me... i dont want to go on a trip for weeks and just want it to be a 5 min thing then be glowing for a lil while then normal... i have done quite a bit of research but im just not sure. Some of the people i tlaked to said that when they did salvia they never felt quite right since... and like this guy i know cryed when talking to me about it. But hes also done a lot of other drugs. Is it safe? Give me your feedback.

[apex]

I must be insane to have even tried it again. Plain leaf it may be however still powerful none the less. Every time I try salvia now I just have a flash back for that one bad experience. I think I understand now that salvia is torturing me. She doesn’t like to be experimented on. I feel as if I opened a door that was never meant to be broken. It was like the backdoor into another form of conscious. I hope that somehow that which connects me with that reality will be broken.


that was a quote from an experience i found... i dont want that reaction.. i dont want to stay like that... I dont want to be stuck in a foreign conciousness that i dont like.. what do you guys think? If i do it and dont like it will i eventually come back or will i stay like that forever?

[apex]

and i just found out i cant get it at my local hemp shop

[laughingwillow]

You are posting like a troll, brawh.

In the op, you claim never to have tried sally. Then you claim to regret having tried sally again, on the same day. So, which is it?

 I get the impression you are again tugging our collective chain.

ps: I don't believe a word you type.

Aloha,

lw

[Stonehenge]

Nothing worse than a lazy troll who doesn't even try to get his act together.

[apex]

im very sorry im just kind of nervous... and that story was from somehting i found on theinternet and it scared me... and no i still havent tried it. And Im not a troll

[laughingwillow]

Prolly best to stay away from salvia, maybe.  Its not for everyone, that's for sure. Nothing recreational about it, imo.

lw

[DrYRHead]

I'm thinking that you should really have read up better on her first apex.

[apex]

Its been quite some time now since I first considered trying her... and honestly I feel it was overcontemplated. I know everyone says make sure what your messing with and why you want to do this drug etc but I spent hours sitting and thinking and considering it and in the end when i did it a few days ago it was nothing that I could have expected. Nothing like what all the research prepared me for. It was something totally unique and I know this may seem insane but I feel like i've been somewhere I can't explain to humans. It's something more... spiritual. I did it again today and it was the same thing. I really wish I could explain it better but it was a totally personal spiritual journey.

My trip - Ok first of all I know I didnt take it quite proper. I had 5x and i had to smoke it out of a pipe... I wanted to get more out of it than my last experience but I couldnt get anything stronger so I just hit it repetetively... about 7 times in all and I held each one for 20 seconds.

Right after all this I look up and i feel like within 30 feet on every side all the trees i saw (i was in the woods... to be in touch with nature) were like flat and like a wall. I felt like i was kind of stuck within this open room. As i did a glance about 360 degrees around I saw 3 portals that led to the other side of the wall. There was 1 main one and 2 minors. Through all of them I could see sort of bright lime green cartoon ferns. I never got a chance to walk through the portal but I cant help but keep thinking what was on the other side?

After that i started walking and all that deteriorated. There was a path leading around a  pond nearby that went all the way around and it turned black with pink highlights and everything else was black outlined with pink... there were some elephants in a lil car (like the ones from dumbo.. the lil pink ones) and they drove by on the path but the entire time i felt like i was watching from above the pond.  

After i finished my walk through the woods i went up on the street and this car drove past me....  I heard someone scream  MITCHHHHHHH as loud and clear as day... like they were right in my ear but i was all alone... it wasnt scary or anything. I was kind of confused. I then realised it was the sound of the car engine but for some reason it had been so clear.

I tripped for a good 20 minutes... and after that i just felt like everything made sense. Im very excited for my next journey.

[Stonehenge]

You will get tired of the trips after a while. Everyone does. I use it with small doses just for the clean feeling afterwards. It's an excellent anti-depressant. But oddly enough, depressed people won't try it or any other supplement usually.

[apex]

Yeah... I figured that and how i felt afterwards was the highlight. I mean even now how many days later i feel so clear... like its taken all the stench of corruption etc and rid it from me.

[laughingwillow]

apex: I could be wrong, but it doesn't sound to me like you "broke through" during the experience described above. Cartoonish is how I also describe my first couple of salvia trips. (The after glow was present for me, too.)

I could be wrong. But for me, there was another level after the cartoon-effect stage. And getting there gets easier every time I smoke. (Two to three hits of plain leaf will do the trick for me at present.)

lw

[apex]

Thankyou for the input. Everyone has told me about this breaking through and im fairly certain that it didnt happen to me. I dont quite understand what it is but i figure when it happens I'll know.

[laughingwillow]

LOL Oh yeah, you will know. hahahahaahahahahaha!

Good luck. And take your time.

lw

[apex]

what stength of extract do u recomend?