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Anti semitism in the psychedelic world

Started by JRL, March 18, 2007, 05:08:37 PM

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laughingwillow

#30
LOL Yeah, the guy came back for his wand. But it was an awfully strange block of time for me. A person shouldn't be saddled with that sort of loaded responsibility while coming on to the sacrament. Heck, what if I had snapped and went around turning all the heads into tales?

lw
Lost my boots in transit, babe,
smokin\' pile of leather.
Nailed a retread to my feet
and prayed for better weather...

judih

#31
now that's something from the book of laughing willow.

TooStonedToType

#32
JRL - I wouldn't judge the community on one guy in the park.  Just like I wouldnt judge it by chat.  In large gatherings, I have really been amazed at the diversity of people getting along.  

LW - This girl I met at one of stork's shows (it always seems to happen just when you think you're safe!), had a young son (10 years old) that once showed me how to make a majik wand - it was very strange - but thats another story - she was more out there than all of us put together - a self-professed psychic and a known prostitute - and her poor kid - man was he picked on at school - he liked me though and he believed it was real - so what can I say?  Glad you didn't freak out.  I about did.  Cuzz as everyone knows - If I had my way, I'd tear this old build'in down!  It would only take one good push in the right direction, if you understand architecture.

I did it, I told the judge and backed it up in writing, so as there wouldn't be any misunderstandings - "For truly, your house is built upon a faulty foundation. The corner stone of your hall has not been squared, leveled nor laid plumb. As even a school boy knows, a house built upon a weak foundation will fall, no matter the craftsmanship used in the construction of its walls."

He was a bit shocked - I don't think he wasn't used to people speaking to him like this - or he wasn't used to people speaking in analogies even a 33rd degree mason could understand.  Anyway - they haven't sent the goon squad after me yet!  Stay tuned.  If I turn up missing, you know where to start looking PV, or inside the cornerstone of the next great public building.

Anyway - I'd say next time it happens, don't worry about it.  Maybe a few heads need to be turned into tails.

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For I was born free and have never sworn allegiance to any man - let alone "his worshipful master"      * I have no secrets *  My life is a book.


The great "secret" - really it is that simple.
...and as if from the inception of time itself I realized I was and had been for sometime, elsewhere, elsewhen or somehow, quite seriously, otherwise...

laughingwillow

#33
We'll see you at Punta Negra, bro.

Viva la ciguena loca!

lw
Lost my boots in transit, babe,
smokin\' pile of leather.
Nailed a retread to my feet
and prayed for better weather...

dendro

#34
I am opposed to racism of any stripe, bigotry and prejudice of any flavor. And while you all know from my more than annoying posts about politics, I am opposed to militaristic Zionism and the current government of Israel, nuff said.

But anti-semitism I am opposed to, fiercely. I know you for a mellow cat, but feel free to kick anti-semites in the nads, JRL.  :evil:
earth peace through self peace...

laughingwillow

#35
Viva el dendro! I been wondering about you, mon. Glad to see you come up to the surface .

lw
Lost my boots in transit, babe,
smokin\' pile of leather.
Nailed a retread to my feet
and prayed for better weather...

JRL

#36
Hey Dendro! I too have recently been wondering about you. All good?
a group of us, on peyote, had little to share with a group on marijuana

the marijuana smokers were discussing questions of the utmost profundity and we were sticking our fingers in our navels & giggling
                 Jack Green

dendro

#37
Hi LW, JRL, and well, everyone at spf! The site looks really good!

Well JRL, I can never say "all good", as I have been wrestling with some knotty and saddening domestic issues (43 year marriage is on life support  :oops: ). But change is good too, I keep telling myself!

But on the plus, I have been doing yoga sadhana, and soul awareness is expanding.  :)

"Up to the surface" yeah LW, here in Hawaii we have an ancient proverb: "The turtle always rises". The turtle is one of my totems, aumakua. So I'm still breathing, at least most of the time, at least I think so, sometimes I forget . :wink:

I was lurking yesterday, as I do occasionally, and maybe it was the new/old skin that triggered a state-dependent memory or sumpin, combined with TSTT's post on skateboarding, and I just felt like posting. I was a little unsure and insecure, didn't know if I would be welcome at all, but I figured I could always go under again, it's nice down there, "water flowing underground, same as it ever was".   8)
earth peace through self peace...

judih

#38
hey, there's a lot to be said for lurking. Lurking is just as active as posting, except it's less visible.

So sorry to hear about your relationship, Dendro. You have been an example of 'it can be done'. Well, change is good, and life moves on even if the books say we have to celebrate 60 year wedding anniversaries.

Hey, what can i say? My still live relationship never began in marriage so even if we make it to 60, it's not gonna count in the Hallmark book of anniversary counting. (oops)

So, here in Israel, yeah, we're still alive and kicking. We have to be a militaristic nation cause we're surrounded by people who'd rather see us non-existent. It's a problem for a pacifist.

My own kids (2 out of 4 who are age-eligible) aren't serving. It was through thoir own efforts that they got out of this mandatory civic duty (yeah!). But there's no doubt that Israel's existence depends on a tight military.

Maybe if we make it to 100 years old, we'll be able to look our neighbours in the eye and say: We're here. We exist. Let's live peacefully and get this show on the road.

Hey, i hope so.
But right now, it's not like that. It's a mess. It's hard and shameful that we're building walls to keep out our neighbours. May the day come where there's no need for protection from or separation from our neighbours.

May the day come where there are 2 states, each with autonomy and respect and viable inner makings to help citizens flourish.

That would be a great day.

But it's not easy to judge us if you're thinking from a Western mentality. There's an undercutting mentality that is impossible to understand unless you research this area and live amongst the people.

There's hope. There are a lot of people from both sides who are getting closer to recognizing that peace is the only way to survive. But that number needs to grow. Grass roots understanding needs to propagate before we'll see real acceptance.

and that's enough outa me right now.

hey dendro and all.
JRL - how's Passover goin?

senorsalvia

#39
Hi ya Dendro my friend.   I remember a post long ago in which you mentioned some nagging health issues.  I figured things had gotten worse for ya healthwise..  Great to find such is not the case....  Still surfin' I guess.....  Welcome back bro.....sal
Cognitive Liberty:  Think About It!!

JRL

#40
My that day come soon, Judih. So much hate in the world.

Passover is good, mostly because Hope, Ari and Hodaya are here :)
a group of us, on peyote, had little to share with a group on marijuana

the marijuana smokers were discussing questions of the utmost profundity and we were sticking our fingers in our navels & giggling
                 Jack Green

judih

#41
cool! Best to the family!
hodaya! great name.

ah, grandkid. sounds so connected.

dissident

#42
"But right now, it's not like that. It's a mess. It's hard and shameful that we're building walls to keep out our neighbours. May the day come where there's no need for protection from or separation from our neighbours.

May the day come where there are 2 states, each with autonomy and respect and viable inner makings to help citizens flourish. "

Hear Hear Judih!
"Those who beat their swords into plowshares wind up plowing for those who did not. "

Stonehenge

#43
Very well said!

Quote from: "dendro"I am opposed to racism of any stripe, bigotry and prejudice of any flavor. And while you all know from my more than annoying posts about politics, I am opposed to militaristic Zionism and the current government of Israel, nuff said.

But anti-semitism I am opposed to, fiercely. I know you for a mellow cat, but feel free to kick anti-semites in the nads, JRL.  :evil:
Stoney

dendro

#44
Thanks for your good wishes and words, judih, much appreciated. Ya it's sad, judih, but we're amicable, still a lot of love there. We're still a family, always will be. We're still in the same house, but may have to separate soon, if resources and health allow. Anything can heal of course, but in this case, time has revealed more of a gulf, not less. We've just grown apart. But we're not done, as you say, change is not the end, it's just...change. The change may be necessary to progress my sadhana, and complete my life's work. And since we don't wish to divorce, technically we may yet see a 60th! But there may not be a celebration...

"But it's not easy to judge us if you're thinking from a Western mentality. There's an undercutting mentality that is impossible to understand unless you research this area and live amongst the people. "

This is profound, and I completely agree. If I lived in Israel, I would likely be in a "tight jacket in a rubber room". Seriously, I doubt I could take it, I'm not that strong.

As you say, no one can know unless they live there, and I can't presume to judge the situation on the ground.

We are in the same boat together, in this modern warfare scenario. We all are stuck with extremists, in DC and Tel Aviv, and elsewhere too. And none of us "little folk" has that much power to stop the extremists. I too hope we can somehow extricate ourselves from this machine, and turn the course back toward peace.

I'm very proud of your kids, for taking a stand against the war machine, that is so great of them!   :D

I'm trying hard to encourage my sons to do the same, they are on board and will resist conscription to the end, thankfully. Unfortunately, my dear wife (whom I support!)  chose to raise them in a pseudo-Christian cult that supports Bush. The sons don't, but still, they donate to these crazies, and are raising their kids in it. I still hope they will wake up to the insanity and leave it behind. This is one of the big divides between us, as I refuse to allow my youngest son to be programmed into another cultbot (he doesn't want it either). And so I have become ---a problem.

I completely support the right of Israel to defend itself, and to keep a strong military. To me, as an idealist, it's more a question of balance. I can't help but admire the example of Switzerland, well-defended and somehow managing to stay neutral and avoid war for many hundreds of years, in spite of war all around them.

But I am an idealist, and I understand that the real world does not always spin the way we might wish. My idealism is somewhat simplistic, admittedly, borne of the Vietnam war era and psychedelia. And as a yogi, ahimsa, karuna, yamas and niyamas are core practices for me. But I also understand that, as Lord Krishna revealed in the Gita, on the cosmic level, all things are fine as they are, and duality is illusory. So my personality is simplistically anti-war, but my soul is ever blissful. And while I continue to be politically active to some degree, my real task and goal is to detach from duality, and to prepare my nervous system to manifest the pure soul which I feel deep inside.

As master of yog Yogiraj Gurunath Siddhanath has said, "Self peace for earth peace".

Hey senor estimado, thanks for the welcome, que paso, jefe? Yeah my health has taken some hits, after a long illness I finally blew out the gall bladder, lung collapsed with bacterial pneumonia after I burned it with a hit of salvia from a bat (dumb, I know! :oops: ). Like everyone in this mortal parade, the aging thing has taken my strength, encouraging me to shift focus to inner workings. But yeah I keep working out, and still get in the water for some waves, and looking forward to the summer swells coming soon, alright!

Hi Stoney, thanks for the kind words!  8)
earth peace through self peace...