Go tell it on the mountain, or : Oops, they did it again!

[laughingwillow]

In the end, I decided not to pollute the mountain with this little ditty on the fundamentals of hyprocracy.

PS: I know, I know, dude is innocent until proven hypocritical...


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061102/ap_ ... llegations

By CATHERINE TSAI, Associated Press Writer 1 minute ago
COLORADO SPRINGS, Colo. - The leader of the influential National Association of Evangelicals, a vocal opponent of the drive for same-sex marriage, resigned Thursday after being accused of paying for sex with a man.

The Rev. Ted Haggard also stepped aside as head of his 14,000-member New Life Church while a church panel investigates, saying he could "not continue to minister under the cloud created by the accusations."

The investigation came after a 49-year-old man told a Denver radio station that Haggard paid him to have sex.

Haggard, a married father of five, denied the allegations in an interview with KUSA-TV late Wednesday: "Never had a gay relationship with anybody, and I'm steady with my wife, I'm faithful to my wife."

In a written statement, Haggard said: "I am voluntarily stepping aside from leadership so that the overseer process can be allowed to proceed with integrity. I hope to be able to discuss this matter in more detail at a later date. In the interim, I will seek both spiritual advice and guidance."

Mike Jones, 49, told The Associated Press that Haggard paid him to have sex nearly every month for three years. His allegations were first aired on KHOW-AM in Denver.

Jones said that he had advertised himself as an escort on the Internet and that a man who called himself Art contacted him. Jones said he later saw the man on television identified as Haggard.

He said that he last had sex with Haggard in August and that he did not warn him before making his allegations this week.

Jones said he has voice mail messages from Haggard, as well as an envelope he said Haggard used to mail him cash, though he declined to make any of it available to the AP.

"There's some stuff on there (the voice mails) that's pretty damning," he said.

Richard Cizik, vice president for government affairs for the evangelicals association, expressed shock.

"Is this something I can imagine of Ted Haggard? No," he said.

Carolyn Haggard, spokeswoman for the New Life Church, said a four-member church panel will investigate the allegations. She did not identify the board members.

"This is really routine when any sort of situation like this arises, so we're prepared," she said. "The church is going to continue to serve and be welcoming to our community. That's a priority."

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Associated Press writer Dan Elliott in Denver contributed to this report.

[laughingwillow]

As of this afternoon, it appears holy-dude has admitted to buying meth and getting a massage from male prostitute-dude, but that's it. Says he beat the temptation of meth after purchasing, but before using. And the massage was just that.

I found this little ditty just now. Be sure to pay attention to the captions.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6rSjrBhUIA&NR

lw

[TooStonedToType]

Yep, "family values" takes another one up the ass!

Funny, we where just going by the church the other night and talked about stealing his parking sign - Dobsons too.  We figured if they don't have any space to park their limos, maybe they'll leave!  

The male prostitute-dude just released a tape that is alledgedly the holy-dude asking if he can get him some MORE of that for $100 for $200.  So the holy-dude must be like really stupid and really, really, tempted by the devil to keep buying meth and flushing it.

[laughingwillow]

I would so much like to show up in Colo Springs this coming Sunday morning, bright and early, in order to picket in front of holy-dude's church. I would hold my "REPENT HYPOCRITES!" sign high and proud.

Closing my eyes, I can see ttst there, too. Let's see... His sign reads, "THE PARTY OF FAMILY VALUES TAKES ANOTHER ONE IN THE ASS!"

ANd there's troutie, too! "I WENT TO CHURCH IN COLO SPRINGS AND ALL I GOT WAS AN ANAL PROBE, A BAG OF DOPE AND THIS T-SHIRT!"

lw

[senorsalvia]

:lol:  :lol:  :roll--------  Wild Bill Clinton didn't inhale, and the leader of the biggest evangelical congregation in the U.S. didn't do the meth...  So, we have a Leftist Dem (Clinton ) offering himself as the stud in an oral sex romp,,,  and we have the Rightwinger Rev seeking out a crank ' totin guy fer sex..............   Hmmm now,   seems as the elections draw nearer, we are seeing the parties put aside differences and 'work it'; together........    :wink:  :wink: ---------  Ahhhh, only in  AmeriKKKa!!!   sal

[TooStonedToType]

LW "I would so much like to show up in Colo Springs this coming Sunday morning..."

Hit the road now!

I doubt we'll be the only ones there.

We've got friends in Manitou Springs that have had it up to here with the "Glory" coming up from the Valley.  Some of them will be there.  As well as all the homosexuals they have been persecuting for years.

edit: Glory is basically correct.  Although, I don't think the entire town was dedicated to Satan.  That is a nasty rumor.  We only gave Satan the amusement park and the Cave of the Winds.  Still you don't want to be scratchin around behind doors, nor looking in caves up in them thar hills.

[TooStonedToType]

Dobson has now resigned from Haggard's "restoration" - he just doesn't have the time for his old friend and former christian brother.

http://cbs4denver.com/topstories/local_ ... 83304.html


"REPENT HYPOCRITES!"

[TroutMask]

History repeats itself again...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Swaggart

Trivia

In 1988 rock musician Frank Zappa wrote a number of parodies about Swaggart's then-current sex scandal. On the album The Best Band You Never Heard In Your Life, "Lonesome Cowboy Burt" became "Lonesome Cowboy Jim", and "Penguin in Bondage" and "Trouble Every Day" were also rewritten. Also, the first track of Zappa's Make A Jazz Noise Here album includes a snippet from a show in Boston, on Feburary 20th, 1988, where Zappa informs the audience of "the good news today" that "Jimmy Swaggart is under investigation". Zappa's 1988 live recording Broadway The Hard Way includes a version of The Police song "Murder By Numbers", sung by Sting, and "dedicated" by him to Swaggart.

During the same tour, Zappa also rewrote three Beatles songs to satirize Swaggart. Norwegian Wood became "Norwegian Jim" [2], Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds became "Louisana Hooker With Herpes" [3], and Strawberry Fields Forever was rewritten as "Texas Motel" [4]. Due to problems securing the rights to the original Beatles songs (at the time when Zappa was releasing albums recorded on the 1988 tour, the Beatles copyrights were owned in part by Michael Jackson, who himself was satirized by Zappa in the song "Why Don't You Like Me"), these songs are not available on the regular Zappa catalogue, but audience recordings can be found on the Internet, usually labelled as "Texas Motel Medley". The lyrics to the suite can be found through the references provided.

Skinny Puppy sample his "I am clean" speech on their song "Hexonxonx" from their Rabies album.

Ozzy Ozbourne's song "Miracle Man" is about the Swaggart prostitution controversy. The song appears on the No Rest for the Wicked album, released at the height of the scandal in 1988. [5]

The Iron Maiden song Holy Smoke, the first single from their 1990 album No Prayer for the Dying, makes reference to Jimmy Swaggart and his 1987/1988 scandal.

In the Jerry Lee Lewis biopic Great Balls of Fire! (1989), Jimmy Swaggart is portrayed by Alec Baldwin.

See also

Christian televangelist scandals

[laughingwillow]

LOL.....

quote ttst:edit: Glory is basically correct. Although, I don't think the entire town was dedicated to Satan. That is a nasty rumor. We only gave Satan the amusement park and the Cave of the Winds. Still you don't want to be scratchin around behind doors, nor looking in caves up in them thar hills.

After reading the Dobson statement above, I get the feeling that the evangelical powers who be will soon be attempting to hypno-motize holy-dude into casting out his dark, evil wishes. Because, you know that Holy-rollers don't believe in the notion of being born gay. But, holy-dude has already admitted to fighting this dark side since reaching adulthood. I'm guessing that many people don't think much about sexuality before puberty. So, holy-dude has been pretty much in the closet all of his adult life, imo. I wonder how the hypocrites will rationalize this fact into their fiction?

lw

[laughingwillow]

I've been reading a little on the net today concerning republicans views on what needs ot be done ot salvage the party and I'm guessing the right-wing, evangelical faction of the republican party will now be relegated to the hypocrite fringe. At least for the time being.

Republicans lost key contests focused on gay marriage and stem-cell research and one of Bush's key spiritual advisor has proven to be all too human after all.

I doubt they will have much clout, now that middle america has taken notice of the state of the union.

lw

[TooStonedToType]

lw "I get the feeling that the evangelical powers who be will soon be attempting to hypno-motize holy-dude into casting out his dark, evil wishes."

My guess is:  Deep in a secret room underneath the Air Force Chapel, a group of them will circle naked with holy-dude in the center, while they all yell,   "Holy-dude, stop being gay!"

[senorsalvia]

:wink: ---  "" Middle AmeriKKKa taking note of the State Of 'Da Union ""  Hmmm now,  Imagine 'Dat    :roll: ---------sal

[TooStonedToType]

Too Busy vs. Conflict of Interest

Just when did "the church" learn of Pastor Ted's blasphemy?
Could all of the early Haggardites been deaf, dumb and blind?
They knew from the beginning!  They had to have. They condoned, hid and protected their pastor's acts.  Did they extort money, power and position for silence?  "If you send me a thousand dollars, I won't tell your wife"  Would Ted have preached to his flock not the Word of God, but the word of the men that blackmail him?  We may never know...or maybe we will?

[TooStonedToType]

Ripples expand.

Mike Jones (male prostitute-dude) stated in a radio interview that haggard was one of many members of the clergy he serviced but stopped short of names.  Meanwhile another mega-church evangelical admits to being gay before he gets outed.

States hes been fighting this choice since age five. Kind of weird.  Maybe I was a late bloomer, but I don't think I even thought about sexuality at age five???  Im guessing thats what made my choices easier.  But anyway, its gonna be a hard restoration in store for this Barnes holy-dude.


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Pastor Resigns, Admits Relations With Men

(AP) ENGLEWOOD, Colo. The founding pastor of the 2,100-member Grace Chapel has resigned after he said he had sexual relations with other men.

Paul Barnes, who led the church for 28 years, told his congregation Sunday in a videotaped message that church leaders allowed The Denver Post to view.

He and his wife have two adult daughters.

"While we cannot condone what he has done, we continue to support and love Paul," associate pastor Dave Palmer said in a written statement.

Palmer told The Denver Post that the church got an anonymous call last week from a person who overheard a conversation in which someone mentioned "blowing the whistle" on evangelical preachers engaged in homosexuality, including Barnes.

Palmer told the newspaper he met with Barnes, who confessed. A board of elders held an emergency meeting Thursday and accepted Barnes' resignation.

"I have struggled with homosexuality since I was a 5-year-old boy," Barnes, 54, said in the videotaped message. "... I can't tell you the number of nights I have cried myself to sleep, begging God to take this away."

He described struggling with what he believes is the biblical teaching that homosexuality is an abomination.

Last month Ted Haggard, who founded the 14,000-member New Life Church in Colorado Springs, was removed as head of the church after a Denver man alleged Haggard paid him for sex. Haggard confessed to sexually immoral conduct.

[senorsalvia]

And on a semi-sidenote:  Notice how the Congressional Ethics Commitee handled the 'page/boy scandal'....  They decided to do nothing..  No censure, nada, zip, zero.....   Oh well, guess that 'ole oxymoron "congessional ehtics" surely applies :wink:  :wink: ---- sal