Is overgrow down?

[CosmicSun]

I haven't been able to access it for a few days...anybody else notice if it's been down lately?

[winder]

More details and speculation at the nook...

http://www.thenook.org/forum/index.php? ... ntry437285

[winder]

More info taken from a post at the nook...


Cannabisworld.com and Overgrow.com Seized By Police
by Marc Emery (03 Feb, 2006)
Overgrow.com, Cannabisworld.com, Heaven's Stairway Seed Company, and Eurohemp.com Shut Down and Servers Seized by Canadian Police
Cannabisworld.com unavailable
When the world's largest websites for cannabis growers and enthusiasts disappeared from the web on Monday, January 30, it was thought to be a server problem.
As the week dragged on, tens of thousands of members, seed company sponsors, growers and fans worried there might be more than mere 'server' problems as Richard Calrisian (a pseudonym) had not made any statements in any web based media about any 'technical' problems.
Now it appears Heaven's Stairway Seeds (hempqc.com), Cannabisworld.com, Overgrow.com, Eurohemp.com have been shut down and the owners arrested in Canada; all their web properties seized, including the physical servers that held massive databases on thousands of growers, and tens of thousands of photographs of cannabis plants. Seed companies by the dozens used both Overgrow.com and Cannabisworld.com as a main trading ground. Over 40 seed companies had customer service interactive forums on these sites.
All the information held on those servers is now in the hands of police. It is not known what charges have been laid nor against whom. That police have not boasted about this seizure means the investigation is continuing, before any affected parties can react.
Cannabis Culture began receiving emails on Wednesday saying Richard Calrisian and his wife had been arrested along with four employees, but this could not be corroborated.
Overgrow.com unavailable
On the website www.icmag.com, seed merchant Gypsy Nirvana, operating from England where cannabis seeds are legal, posted this news late Friday:
“It is with great sadness that I bring you the news that RC and HS, OG and CW have been taken down by the authorities in Canada.....
...I have it from a bonofide source that it happened on monday and RC's computers/servers have most probably been siezed, they spent 2 days going thru his house and removed alot of stuff ...
His wife and some members of his family were also taken into custody and it's possible that she may be released tommorrow on bail... There has not been a peep in the media about this so there could be a reason why it was not advertised by LEO......BE WARNED! not to try and log on to Overgrow or Cannaworld for now since most certainly the security of that site has been compromised and if it comes back up without me first hearing from RC then it is NOT being run by him.....think about it!
...This could bring up some real security issues with many Overgrow/Cannabisworld members.........be warned guys and do what you need to do to make it safer for all of you.......duck and cover if needs be....
....Yours Faithfully...
Gypsy Nirvana"
As soon as we find out more information about what's happened, we will provide updates here or in the Cannabis Culture forums. Overgrow.com website members are welcome to converge here to find out more and reconnect.
Marc Emery and Jodie Giesz-Ramsay, Friday February 3rd 2006, 6:10pm

[CosmicSun]

this is sad...I sent a letter to HS shortly after the Emery raid telling those guys that they'd be next on this ever-broadening Bush/GOP agenda and that they should put all their money and assets into a swiss bank account before the whores come around and steal it the way they did with Emery.  I hope they listened...

This is exactly why we can't trust the government.  This is exactly why Bush's spy program to protect us from "terrrorists" is a bunch of bullshit...

Fuck the GOP.  Bunch of gutless whores...

[CosmicSun]

Emery's extradition hearing is February 13.  This is stupid timing by the Canadian gov. but should help garner support for the cause beforehand.  Anybody who is near the Vancouver area should show up and voice their support...
Down with Bush and his money-grubbing corrupt agenda of fascist politics and conformity...

[TooStonedToType]

I sent a PM (on another site, not this one).

It was read, but not answered.

Not good.

[Avery L. Breath]

Can't say I'm suprised.  Speaking from a town where only a few years ago the feds came in and shut down two legitimate businesses and locked up the owners for selling "glass tobacco accessories."  Websites dedicated to the cultivation and consumption of marijuana, are bound to gander the attention of the LEO.  I just hope the people who frequent such sites take or have taken the appropriate cautions...... although it may take years for them to go after potentially incriminated individuals, don't think they won't.

....... makes yah just love the non-incriminating policy's around here, doesn't it.

[Stonehenge]

IMHO, any info the feds got will be very time sensitive. For one thing, after some time has gone by it allows the people to clean house and get ready for any visit. They don't want to do a raid and come up empty. For another thing, judges are going to be unlikely to issue a warrant on old info.

The feds are mostly interested in shutting off the source of the ideas or the one selling the parphenalia or equipment used. They rarely go after users. None of the pipe purchasers were prosecuted. And for another thing, far as they know all the purchasers might have had legitimate medical permits to grow and use.

My opinion is that they won't go any farther though they'll jump on anyone who has a high profile. I think that if someone hasn't had a visit yet, they probably won't get one. As time goes by it becomes less likely but people shouldn't be careless.

[TooStonedToType]

It was rumored in the Emery bust someone (U$A or Canada) sent out fake advertisement letters to people in the U$ offering good deals on certain questionable products - hoping to entrape them as they really didn't have anything on the suspected customers.

[CosmicSun]

Anybody have any info on the Emery trial?  This is very weird...it seems as though the government has shut off all access to any relevant info regarding both the emery case and the case of RC/overgrow.  I recall reading not so long ago that the extradition proceeding were supposed to get underway on Feb. 13 which was also Emery's birthday.  Now when I do a google search I come up empty-handed on both cases.  (although one of the very first links ito Emery is a government website: http://64.233.179.104/search?q=cache:88 ... =clnk&cd=4).

Dudes these guys are playing dirtier than ever.  It seems obvious that they are controlling the accessible info in an attempt to keep people quiet and out-of-touch with the details.  I'm not sure about Canadian law but I know that in the US this is a clear violation of ammendment 1 of the Bill of Rights, that being the Freedom of Speech of the people.
This is exactly why Bush's spy program is not to be trusted.

[dergheist]

Yeah I saw that over at another site.  Scary Man.