spiritplants board of directors

[laughingwillow]

Hey, I'd vote for raver or jacko.

cassie: We may all be here now, but the past bunch of years have shown me that some aren't really interested in participation past the initial rush of the planning and development stages. I've heard you make the comment that we didn't see you around spf much in the past because there just wasn't much moderating to do in your forum. Imo, a spf moderating position has little to do with being a contributing community member.

nitro: I don't have anything against you. But you ain't be a real regular contributor to the spf forums for the last few years. As far as I could tell, you didn't really like us or maybe just didn't have much interest in participating. I know.... you can be found in chat. But that's really a distinct community from the spf boards. Some may go back and forth but it is still two seperate entities.

We spf regulars know each other pretty well, even those who read more than post. While I admire your efforts to develop a progressive board, (as seen by a few ideas implemented and then discarded) I have a tough time believing that those in charge of planning had no clue as to the volitility of the issues at hand.  A central tenant of spf has always been to avoid certain topics. It's not like we've overlooked those subjects by accident. And those forum discussions were always held in public, on the boards.

I had a problem with eddy ruling the site (spf) from chat. And I have the perception that the ones in charge here will be prone to the same management style.

cen is definitely a spf regular. Of those at the top, he seems the most likely candidate to run the community and keep the small people in mind.

lw

[senorsalvia]

I don't really care much who is percieved to be the admin/head honcho etc, as long as the overall spirit that was the flavor of the old place does not substantially disappear... Sure there were occasionally some snafus, but in the whole, the site has always been, hands down, my fave place in the entheo-cyber-realm.......   'Course, here I am, pontificating, and yet have nothing to offer the boards as far as hands on support.  Senor is probably the least computer savvy of anyone here...  (evidenced by the fact I can't even figure out how to get this machine to allow me to do simple paragraph indentations and the like)....  To my friend Dendro:  Yo bro, I appreciate yer contributions and don't ignore your postings.  Fact is, I find myself wondering how you are, when you occasionally make yourself scarce....................   Things seems to be doing pretty well IMHO-------------  senorsal-----------

[cenacle]

cassie and nitroburn are both vital members of SPF, there is no doubt of this, nor will there ever be...one can have one's owns feelings or opinions, but i will simply not remain quiet while these good people are knocked around...cassie has contributed to the forums, the chat, and the radio, is smart, and invaluable to have around as a friend and a unique soul...i care for her very much and hope all good things for her, including staying in this community a long time...

nitroburn is one of the most special young people that i know...he is smart, funny, a tech wiz, and one of the nicest people you could ever hope to meet, even if only online...i trust him in many ways, and like cassie am happy to call him friend, a real friend...him and andy being admins here is going to make this site a special place from the ground up...they are responsive to people's needs, and act from a total spirit of generosity and community...

as for chat and forums and radio being different entities, they are and they aren't...there is only one SPF banner and it flies above all of them...people participate as they will but think of SPF as a village with its different buildings and activities...they are all valid, and all are welcome to each of them...

i am not 'in charge' in any predominant way, i do not have all of the skills and know-how to be that...i help out, keep an eye and an ear open to things, and usually turn to andy and/or nitro to get things changed...but SPF is a community, a shared place, a collaboration among souls...i like it that way...it's too much for any one person to control or lord over...i am happy to do what i do, and to see others every day pitching in....

the better we figure things out one at a time, the better our community will be, the more prosperous its collective soul...it takes all of us to do this...everyone counts, everyone matters, i'm going to start singing mr rogers neighborhood songs about now so i'll stop... :twisted:

[Bushpig]

HMmmmmm


I think SPF in its true light will need very little from a baord of directors.  The mods jobs are to look after their forums and keep content legitimate and growth high!  I think oghran has the keys to the site, I guess the job of any sort of group of directors needs to be on issues of not allowing a repeat of the demise of the old site and also should SPF need technical work or development in the lines of where we are going, or for questions and comments that mods dont want to deal with on just their own discretion.

For that purpose we need people that are contactable very quickly, and are reliable.  These can be drawn from forum members that barely use chat or chat members that barely use the forum..or more ideally members that often are found on both.

The directors shouldn't be dictators but more transmitters and recievers of opinion, and have the ability to carry out adjustments on the fly if its needed to promote the sites good health.  

Now, i have more contact in chat but am a moderator and spend time on the forum so my choices are more orientated towards those I know, i'd suggest cassie ...she absolutly loves SPF and is in distress to see us bickering over it all when she just wants it to get back to how it was.

I'd also go for cenacle, he's devoted and is about often, I know he would honour the responsibility with his upmost attention.

Now there's people on the forum such as Winder, two stoned to type and troutmask that are old school regulars, if they wanted the position then they'd get my vote.



Boooosh

[nitroburn]

nitro: I don't have anything against you. But you ain't be a real regular contributor to the spf forums for the last few years. As far as I could tell, you didn't really like us or maybe just didn't have much interest in participating. I know.... you can be found in chat. But that's really a distinct community from the spf boards. Some may go back and forth but it is still two seperate entities.

Ok, so all those post I made just never got read by you. I, on average, made one post a day. Yes, I have been a little slower with my posting over the last almost year, but I have been finishing my schooling. (school comes first!) I dont know why you assume I didn't like SPF or that I didn't have intrest in participating. I guess yeah, its that you only use the forums where as I frequent both the chat and forums so I guess I am seen as 'more active' by those users who also participate in the chat as well as the forums.  (like cenacle and cassie)

You may contine to float the idea that I dislike this place and the only reason im helping is some hidden side reason im not telling anyone. But it is not true and Its very annoying to keep have you throwing out there like it were even slightly connected to any shred of evidence.

"I have a tough time believing that those in charge of planning had no clue as to the volitility of the issues at hand."

I don't get why you would think we dont know about the volitility of the issue when we have been posting on the exact point that we do know the volitility of the issue and that it was a accident from misunderstanding of a unclarified acceptance.

"I had a problem with eddy ruling the site (spf) from chat. And I have the perception that the ones in charge here will be prone to the same management style. "

The problem was eddy was never around. And He was rarely on the chat in the past 4 years I have hosted it. He frequented the forums more.

"cen is definitely a spf regular. Of those at the top, he seems the most likely candidate to run the community and keep the small people in mind. "

Thats why I discuss every action I take with him.
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I am not a 'moderator' here. You have made it painfully clear that less people think of me as a part of SPF then I previously assumed. I am an 'Administrator' here to preform technical duties for the moderators. So I wont be the one rocking the boat, I'm just here to make sure that boat doesn't sink. Don't worry, i wont pulling down the mast and trying to install a motor on the back.

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[Cassie]

Its amazing how people can have such different perspectives, quite like 'the elephant in the living room'.
It sadens me to see Nitro havin to defend himself; I have scarcely met a more helpful and caring person and have always thought we were very lucky to have him in this community.
Nitro is a rare individual, one from whom we all can learn not just techie stuff which he helps with unceasingly but also how to act with community interests at heart and how to treat each other with kindness and respect, as practical steps towards a better world.  (and he prolly doesn't even realise how wonderful he is)
 :roll:

[Avery L. Breath]

btw: our stats
NITROBURN:
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LAUGHINGWILLOW:
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Uhm, not that it matters in the slightest but LW's original post count was somewhere in the 1800 mark at one point I believe.  He cut it back to around 400 a while back at the same time I rolled my post count back for various reasons.

That being said, this whole conflict kinda bums me out.  I don't get it.  


Love
Avery

[laughingwillow]

LOL I passed 1800 a long time back on spf. My average post average was about 4/day and I'd been there for at least four years before it went down. Not that that matters one whit.

lw

[JRL]

Guys, what is this? We don't need a who's got the biggest log contest here. I don't see what this is all about.

[VajraPirate]

Just to clarify-

My log is in fact the biggest.

I know you're not supposed to chop down redwoods, but I just couldn't help it. I wouldn't have had anything to say otherwise.

[winder]

There is room for many here.

We need admins and I am confident that should Nitroburn, Cassie, and/or Cenacle be the admin(s), they will be around.

We need moderators, and I see no issue with Admins also serving as Moderators if they so choose.  We shouldn't expect it, as it would increase the burden on the admin(s), but then again, some may be up to the tasks.

I respectfully ask that Nitroburn and Laughingwillow ease up on one another.  I am not looking to referee this or to say that one is causing more trouble than the other.  I have a bit more commuciation history with one than the other, but also realize that can cause some bias.  I look forward to more opportunity to see Nitroburn participate as a member on the boards, besides the political stuff, and I am making an effort to get on chat to see him and others.  I also hope to see LW stay and particpate for a long while.

I am glad to have LW's concern and I am glad to see Nitroburn's patience.  But I am concerned that the back and forth is continuing, when I see little coming from it.

Perhaps the best thing is to have more than one admin, as history has shown us what happens with just one admin when s/he disappears.  Is it technically feasible to have more than 1 admin?  Must multiple admins being geographically accessible to the hardware?

[dendro]

I totally love and respect nitroburn, and really enjoy his posting.  

[dendro]

not to leave anyone out, I also totally love and respect cen, cassie, jrl, andy, avery, lw, ttst, stoney, winder, in fact everyone here BIG HUG AWWWW....

[Avery L. Breath]

I totally second that list!.......and will see you one Eddy and a slightly used dendro!

[judih]

yeah, that's right, any excuse for a poker game.
i've got an lw up my sleeve and he's very impatient. would you kindly take your turn?

p.s. so be it ruled - there were many posts and alas we start anew.
nitro was a pillar of the site in his bizarre sometimes animated avatar way.
lw on the other hand was a pillar in his rubberized steadfast mission to keep the place above ground.

Valuable people.

i continue to scratch the tickle - annoying things these bickers...