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Started by JRL, November 09, 2005, 04:15:38 PM

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Green2Herman

#30
Quote from: "Stonehenge"Yeah, sally is great. It just amazes me though how many people won't even try it. I've been preaching sally for quite a while now and have won only a handful of converts. Once they try it, they are sold on it. It's just hard as hell to get most people to try. Soon as they hear the word "hallucinogen" they won't touch it with a 10' pole. Even depressed stoners sometimes won't try it. They tell me they "know" it won't work. Loser attitudes like that would give anyone depression.

If I was seriously depressed, and all depression is serious, I'd sure try it. Being depressed takes away enjoyment of life. People kill themselves over depression but they won't try sally, most of them. What is that saying?: you can lead a horse to water...

So how do you dose it?

A general observation though is that a compound that affect the mind as clear as SD, are said to be an effective anti-depressive medicin and have a nice story around it, probably would be rather good as anti-depressive medicin no mather of which compound we would choose.

I read not long ago that laughing gas now are used against certain types of depression.

Avery L. Breath

#31
Yeah N20 is a very effective anti-anxietal........ to bad it kills brain cells wholesale.  It's also know for it's amnesiatic properties.  What's it called again?  Hippie crack?

Stonehenge

#32
>So how do you dose it?

You have to find your own dose. 2 or 3 tokes of good leaf will do the job for me. Some people might need more. Experiment with it and find the right dose for you. If you feel much better an hour later, you found the dose.

And no, it's not just the same as many other things like NO2 or something like that. Salvia is unique.
Stoney

dergheist

#33
Man oh man, :roll: this topic sure did get off topic really fast.  I agree with Stoney in the fact that Sally is different as she is an ally in this world and not just a mere psyhadelic party drug or a pick-me-upper.  Everybody's dose is different and she responds differently to each person.  Sally also has the nice attribute of reverse tolerance and I have gotten to where if I do smoke it (very very very rare) only one hit is needed of plain leaf.  Most people that dose is much higher especially if one is new to Sally.  Well, I think I have said enough about my thought of Sally in a forum that is supposed to be about the anti-depressive actions of St. Johns Wort.  :shock:
People who say it cannot be done should not interrupt those who are doing it.

JRL

#34
No worries about off topic. This has been very helpful.
a group of us, on peyote, had little to share with a group on marijuana

the marijuana smokers were discussing questions of the utmost profundity and we were sticking our fingers in our navels & giggling
                 Jack Green

dergheist

#35
Cool  8) Ain't Sally the best girfriend a guy could have in the World!
People who say it cannot be done should not interrupt those who are doing it.

JRL

#36
I am starting to think so, I feel her with me all the time
a group of us, on peyote, had little to share with a group on marijuana

the marijuana smokers were discussing questions of the utmost profundity and we were sticking our fingers in our navels & giggling
                 Jack Green

dergheist

#37
I know with Sally, I feel like I have meditated for hours after using her.  My buisness partner and I have noticed that when we are around our plants after dosing as we tend to them, it is like we can hear their thoughts.  Like subconcious thoughts that somehow you know are not your own.  I know the first time I tried TSTT's Sally back at my house, I had both my cats sitting with me and we must have carried on quite a good conversation that lasted for hours after dosing.  Even the next day the cats were more "clingy" and I knew instictivly what they wanted.  I think now that what Sally does for us, is to dial us in with the world around us.  Heck, the ancient legends talk of how we used to talk with the animals and be protectors of this earth just like the Native Americans, but somehow we lost that ability and I believe that Sally shows us how to get back to our roots.  One thing I am certain of is that I love her, the longer our relationship continues.  I mean at first she was a little unpredictable and even sometimes down right harsh (I guess this is why I call her a feamle), but that eeventually changed into pure respect and love for each other.  Well, I guess enough of the hippie talk, before someone here realizes how crazy I truly am.  :wink:
People who say it cannot be done should not interrupt those who are doing it.

Avery L. Breath

#38
damn hippies! :P


Love
A~

Green2Herman

#39
Quote from: "dergheist"I know with Sally, I feel like I have meditated for hours after using her.  My buisness partner and I have noticed that when we are around our plants after dosing as we tend to them, it is like we can hear their thoughts.  Like subconcious thoughts that somehow you know are not your own.  I know the first time I tried TSTT's Sally back at my house, I had both my cats sitting with me and we must have carried on quite a good conversation that lasted for hours after dosing.  Even the next day the cats were more "clingy" and I knew instictivly what they wanted.  I think now that what Sally does for us, is to dial us in with the world around us.  Heck, the ancient legends talk of how we used to talk with the animals and be protectors of this earth just like the Native Americans, but somehow we lost that ability and I believe that Sally shows us how to get back to our roots.  One thing I am certain of is that I love her, the longer our relationship continues.  I mean at first she was a little unpredictable and even sometimes down right harsh (I guess this is why I call her a feamle), but that eeventually changed into pure respect and love for each other.  Well, I guess enough of the hippie talk, before someone here realizes how crazy I truly am.  :wink:

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visionarybear

#40
yeh, i find personally, most psycadellics have a good after glow to them, after the come down period and the like, like blowing out a few cobwebs or sumpin, sally is great, n20 also, used to use it occasionally as a 'reset switch' worked great to reset thew mood to a happy at ease start point, great when your a bit down or angry... too ba dit got recently banned for resale over here...
"why must we live like penguins in the dessert?
why cant we live like tribes?"
-dredg

barrosluco

#41
I ordered dried SALVIA DIVINORUM leaves from www.botanicmagic.com
I tried chewing them, nothing happened. I smoke them with a pipe, and nothing happened either. Was I ripped off?
Please advice

senorsalvia

#42
It's possible you got ripped off....   It's a;so possible you are what is known as a Salvia hardhead, and will take either the stronger extracts to feel effects, OR, you will have to wita awhile until you experience the fabled "reverse tolerance effect".....    Google Erowid and read up on these and other sites .  Learn all you can about this great plant teacher....   Do keep us posted as to your journeys......   sal
Cognitive Liberty:  Think About It!!

Windandrain

#43
I have been struggling a lot with psychological anger control disorder and bouts of depression for the majority of my young life up until I started taking herbal supplements (St. John, Valarian root, chronic) now I am off the meds I was on for both PACD and depression none of which was working for me anyway. I have yet to try salvia but plan to jump on the bandwagon to explore it's fore-told healing properties.

Many thanks to the forums for listening and sharing
A single grain of sand can tip the scale

laughingwillow

#44
welcome windandrain.

Feel free to tread these grounds with careful abandon or reckless restraint, which ever you prefer. We're easy.

Sally is in a class of her own. You'll know when you get there.....

lw
Lost my boots in transit, babe,
smokin\' pile of leather.
Nailed a retread to my feet
and prayed for better weather...