Psychotria Ssp.

[Zaka]

Irie,
So AJ, I was looking though your site and saw you have a species of Psychotria ssp.
Just wondering if it's not P. Muscosa??? Or maybe Psychotria urbaniana??
Check it out! //http://saintlucianplants.com/floweringplants/rubiaceae/psycmusc/psycmusc.html
What do rekkon??
Respect
Z

[ayahuasca-journey]

hello friend Zaka well post the link, really showing photos of different varieties and species of Psychotria are interesting, I can not say exactly which species or variety belongs seed I am offering on my site that is why it classified by the time the name Psychotria ssp.
now I have no photos of the plants but in a few days will put the original photos spychotrias varieties that exist in my area and maybe we can form a thread and find the exact species and variety of these plants. Alberto we are investigating and the only way to know is through still flowering and seed plants are magical and beautiful.


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[therealsanango]

Hi, this is the strain of psichrotya that is used by curanderos to connect spirits in a very deep dimention or level, this chacruna takes you to the so called hospitals where they practice spirituals surgeries, this plant is very magical, your body needs to be purify before taking this.

peace

Alberto

[Stonehenge]

AJ, those photos do not look like any psychotria species, certainly not anything related to viridid. Blue berries? It may be a good plant in some way but i question the taxonomy.

[Zaka]

Irie Stoney,
Check-out the link //http://saintlucianplants.com/floweringplants/rubiaceae/psycmusc/psycmusc.html
You'll see not all psychotria's have red berries...
I find it interesting to find out more about traditional uses of each of these species.
Respect
Z

[Stonehenge]

Zaka, none of the psychotrias shown at that site have blue berries and two have red ones. I see no berries in the other photos there. Plus the leaves on those other psychotrias look fairly close to p viridis while the leaves in the photos here look very different. The flowers here look totally different too. It may be a good plant i just question what species it is.

[Zaka]

Irie,
I was looking at this photo in particular;//http://saintlucianplants.com/floweringplants/rubiaceae/psycmusc/psycmusc6.html See the blue berries.
There are many with blue, black & white berries.
I'm currently growing out two of these local species, one from both stem cutting and seed (which sprouted in like a week or so!) & one from just leaf cutting, showing roots after 4 weeks....
Respect
Z

[Stonehenge]

Zak, that is very interesting. Little clumps of berries or possibly blue flowers. But they look different than the berries in the photo in this thread. Also, the leaves in your photo look more like psychotria leaves while the leaves in a-j's photo look less like psychotria and the flowers look nothing like psychotria flowers. If you had a photo of a known psychotria species that looked closely like the photo of the suspected species, that would be some evidence. Even if aj's plant is a different species, that does not take anything away from it's value. I just don't see how you can say it's a psychotria.

[ayahuasca-journey]

hello friends is a bit sad for me personally, the confusion that exists among some members, we all want to know but to be sure we have to see, touch and compare plants. us here in my region there are many varieties of plants which are recognized and verified by Indian shamans that exist in our forest and as I say again they never are wrong, something does not transmit knowledge from one generation to the modern world which is only based on information obtained from some encyclopedias, we have the plant here where we can say that we are directly in contact with the magical world of plants and we can say almost for sure that is a kind of Psychotria, and shows the Zaka friend can see links Psychotria varieties that exist and are there in my region continue to show new photos to come out of the question and if you want I can send samples of the leaves, taking a delight that you and draw your conclusions .. .....

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[Stonehenge]

AJ, thank you for sharing your photos and information. We all want to learn about new and interesting plants and ways of doing things. No one is disrespecting your curanderos or suggesting that encyclopedias contain all the knowledge that exists. This plant may be new to science and of great medicinal value. When the shamans call it psychotria, they may mean it's a shamanic type of plant. We in the west may use the word in a different way and might classify it slightly differently than they would. If it does belong in the family psychotria, then it's an interesting find. But it's an interesting find no matter what. These details are of interest only to botanists. We are more interested in how it works.

[therealsanango]

Hi, we call it psichrotya because a couple of friends who were living in the jungle all their life and tasting the taxonomy of different herbs, they told us this is a varity of chacruna, we cannot say the scientific name because there are no reports of it in our database is only known by a few locals and very few curanderos use it.

sincerely

Alberto

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