Naturalizing fungi

[Jaeda]

Recently I was ditty-boppin' around the net and came upon a site that listed various cubes, one I took notice of had a notation of origin as being Georgia (U.S.), which I thought, "neat." But it prompted me to inquire about something that I asked about somewhere else and in respect to a different species years ago....

Is it possible to 'naturalize' any, some, or all cubes 'in the wild' via introduction such as innoculating a cultivated cake? Oh that came out weird. I mean, could one find a nice seemingly suitable spot and deposit either a cap or print or spore solution and actually expect to see any results occur naturally from that point forward? Not as far south or east as GA... winters colder where I've got in mind, but since things will lie dormant until conditions are just right anyway.... is it theoretically or even proven possible?

Yes, I do realize that in the wild, there would be no protection against contaminants... that's not my concern since I'm not looking to harvest. Just wondering if I could add to the biodiversity of the area or not with fungi? I've seen some fungi (non-edibles) where I only ever saw ONE specimen - and left them/it alone, and later kicked myself in the butt about it because despite the fungi taking its natural course, I either missed seeing the next cycle or conditions never got 'just right' again (or maybe wildlife ate them? An Urn fungi first comes to mind that I once found... I really, really, really wish I had gotten a spore print - it was the "perfect" specimen species for a woodland environment).

[Juicemonkey]

IME Cubes grow from spores in the soil

cow craps
crap goes throughstages of wetting and drying
and when the crap is at the right stage the spores germinate

i think its all timed well so the shroom colonise the pat in teh same timeframe as the grasses grow up through it

IME the pats are ALWAYS colonised bottom upwards

the resulting humididome suits cubes well

Cubes obviously can be introduced
as they are not native to the Americas or Australia, but to Asia and Africa, where domestic cattle, rhinos and elephants roam

once on a site they will persist long droughts by staying in the soil. ive picked places that havent fruited for 3-4 years. but along come the rains and up come the shrooms!

my suggestion is...
If the site will support cubes
then it might best be innoculated via mass spore innculation of the site

to do so either harvest a jar full of spores using a filtration system
or do an outdoor bed grow upwind of the site

use a strain closest to its wild origins, and closest to your climate

[boomer2]

="Juicemonkey" IME Cubes grow from spores in the soil

cow craps
crap goes throughstages of wetting and drying
and when the crap is at the right stage the spores germinate

i think its all timed well so the shroom colonise the pat in teh same timeframe as the grasses grow up through it

IME the pats are ALWAYS colonised bottom upwards

the resulting humididome suits cubes well

Cubes obviously can be introduced
as they are not native to the Americas or Australia, but to Asia and Africa, where domestic cattle, rhinos and elephants roam

once on a site they will persist long droughts by staying in the soil. ive picked places that havent fruited for 3-4 years. but along come the rains and up come the shrooms!

my suggestion is...
If the site will support cubes
then it might best be innoculated via mass spore innculation of the site

to do so either harvest a jar full of spores using a filtration system
or do an outdoor bed grow upwind of the site

use a strain closest to its wild origins, and closest to your climate

Spores disburse in many different ways. Cows eat mushrooms when feeding on grasses in pasture lands.  Especially cubes and copes.

Some spores fall on surrounding leaves and cattle eat the grass or they shit on the leaves.  It takes six weeks for manure to decompose to produce shrooms, however, I have photographed Copelandia tropicalis fruiting on fresh overnight manure shitted from a cow which was not there the day before.  And then I photographed that cow pie every three days for a 21 day period.

Other methods, spores can travel on feet, clothes, birds and through the air.

In Hawaii, on there have been numerous occasions where many people have tried dozens of methods to introduce cubes to the islands.

They never grow. Even feeding apple-laced cubes to cattle and horses did not produce any shrooms whatsoever.  for instance, 5 species of Copelandias and Panaeolus subbalteatus grow in Hawaii, but no cubes.

In the other hand cubes grow in Fiji with Copelandia species, but only copes grow in Samoa.

No one knows why they grow and do not grow.  Copes grow in Bali and no shrooms, Copes in Jakarta and in Sumatra, and then there are cubes and copes in Kuala Lumphur, Malaysia, but not in the above noted countries in Indonesia.

Many fields never have cubes or copes yet are in regions and countries where they do grow.

P. azurescens is a mushroom which has been transplanted around the world and eastern and Midwestern states and in Europe but never grows more than two years and never spreads into other areas.  And the ones grown in about 12 locations in Leipzig by Dr. Jochen Gartz, never spread into other areas of the city and they grew differently than they did in Oregon with shorter stems at least two inches shorter than their Astoria/Hammond, Oregon natural habitat/

Carrying cow pies home is also stupid. You can only carry so many and they will fruit as well in the field.  many people in the Southeast USA carry home pies with nothing in them and then nothing ever grows.

boomer2

[lighthawk]

Spores disburse in many different ways. Cows eat mushrooms when feeding on grasses in pasture lands.  Especially cubes and copes.

Some spores fall on surrounding leaves and cattle eat the grass or they shit on the leaves.  It takes six weeks for manure to decompose to produce shrooms, however, I have photographed Copelandia tropicalis fruiting on fresh overnight manure shitted from a cow which was not there the day before.  And then I photographed that cow pie every three days for a 21 day period.

Other methods, spores can travel on feet, clothes, birds and through the air.

In Hawaii, on there have been numerous occasions where many people have tried dozens of methods to introduce cubes to the islands.

They never grow. Even feeding apple-laced cubes to cattle and horses did not produce any shrooms whatsoever.  for instance, 5 species of Copelandias and Panaeolus subbalteatus grow in Hawaii, but no cubes.

In the other hand cubes grow in Fiji with Copelandia species, but only copes grow in Samoa.

No one knows why they grow and do not grow.  Copes grow in Bali and no shrooms, Copes in Jakarta and in Sumatra, and then there are cubes and copes in Kuala Lumphur, Malaysia, but not in the above noted countries in Indonesia.

Many fields never have cubes or copes yet are in regions and countries where they do grow.

P. azurescens is a mushroom which has been transplanted around the world and eastern and Midwestern states and in Europe but never grows more than two years and never spreads into other areas.  And the ones grown in about 12 locations in Leipzig by Dr. Jochen Gartz, never spread into other areas of the city and they grew differently than they did in Oregon with shorter stems at least two inches shorter than their Astoria/Hammond, Oregon natural habitat/

Carrying cow pies home is also stupid. You can only carry so many and they will fruit as well in the field.  many people in the Southeast USA carry home pies with nothing in them and then nothing ever grows.

boomer2[/quote]

John,
 I respect you very much (kinda look up to ya) but you are wrong on one point there. I bring home manure from the feild near my home all the time and both cubes and copes have and are growing out of my compost piles, in my yard and in my gardens. I do live on the Treasure Coast in Florida so I guess if you live in an area where cubes grow you can bring home manure for the garden and get wild mushrooms from it... I do visit a few feilds nearby that have little or no cubes or copes in them. I have been wondering what the best way to get this feild established. Will adding spores to feed straw  for the cattle and horses work I have some BPK prints I would like to see if they would fruit down here... I