Immigration poll!

[TooStonedToType]

Immigration poll!

[Syd]

Not really, someone has to mow our lawns and sweep our streets. Amerikans are too refined for that sort of work. ;)

[laughingwillow]

LOL I see no place to cast my vote in the thread, but I see two votes cast.

Btw, you added an important comma to the second option that really makes both answers against immigration by those deemed illegal by the U$ gubmit.

lw

[laughingwillow]

It let me vote this time.

A big portion of the immigrants recently arrested that worked for Swift Packing were here in Iowa. I had to bite my lip over christmas to aviod participating in the stoopid conversation my family was having over illegal immegration. My mother is all against it, even though the little town she lives in out on the prairie would have dried up and blown away by now if not for the immigrants moving into the area.

Its sad all the way around...

lw

[TooStonedToType]

comma? I did?  Sorry can't change it now.

Yea, another swift plant was here in colorado.  No management arrested at all.

See Denver's major is really a resturanture extrodinare (another industry well-know for its reliance on undocumented workers)  He hires and has hired undocumented workers for years.  Most of his comes from honduras (so a little bird tells me).  We all thought something might change when one of his undocumented workers killed a cop, http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/44 ... etail.html but the major just didn't know everyone who worked for him was "illegal" - like the swift management - plus the major put everything in a "blind" trust - how convient.


Doubt much will change when the major also owns an old well-known mafia establishment.  http://www.gaetanositalian.com/  He tries to distance himself from the resturants, but they are his.  He even jokes about killing people on his web site and alludes to the fact that the old mafia guard still frequents the joint.  Funny, there was going to be a big cocaine bust involving people in the restrurant and someone who rented upstairs, but "someone" tiped them off!  The cops didnt' find anything.
http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/l ... 94,00.html
http://us.geocities.com/organizedcrimes ... orado.html

[Syd]

It let me vote this time.

A big portion of the immigrants recently arrested that worked for Swift Packing were here in Iowa. I had to bite my lip over christmas to aviod participating in the stoopid conversation my family was having over illegal immegration. My mother is all against it, even though the little town she lives in out on the prairie would have dried up and blown away by now if not for the immigrants moving into the area.

Its sad all the way around...

lw

It's the same way when I'm back home with my family. All of them are against it and unless we are drinking I can usually bite my tongue!

[VajraPirate]

I am fine with illegal immigration. The beef I have is with company's like swift that ship them in by the trainload, remember that one lw where some poor migrant workers were left in a train car until baked to death by the summer sun a few years back? And honestly I wouldn't have a problem with that as long as these companys are paying them a competative wage, and benefits (including not being killed during transit). It's not an immigrants fault for wanting to feed his family, I want to feed mine too.

During the 1960's people were being paid $14-$18 dollars an hour at meat packing plants around the country. Only now after these recent raids has swift even attempted to raise the starting wage to $11.50. That is still $3.50 less than what the same job paid 30 friggin years ago. Before the raids I beleive the starting wage (for documented workers) was btween $7.50 and $9 an hour.

So, my problem is with the company's driving down wages, not the immigrants working the jobs, that why I vote yes, it is a serious problem.