nepal shamanism

[fuzz]

i have a question about a seed my friend brought back from a trip in the mountains. Meeting a tamang baba (one of the many nepale ethnic groups. tamangs having a long history of shamanism), he was given a few seeds, which are said to be used for rituals by tamang shamans.

does anyone know of a nepale seed called phonetically something like "sanjevani, sanvani?". the seeds come from a small fruit, with about 4 seeds a fruit. they are darker color. the trip is supposed to induce first some vomitting, then about a 10 hr trip.
i will post picture of seed when i can.

Any clue?

[Bushpig]

No, but I shall look through C.Ratschs encyclopedia and see if I can dig up some info

Bushpig

[Anonymous]

I'm very interesting in Far Eastern shamanism, great post!

[fuzz]

thatd be great Bush. any info is greatly appreciated. as my friend is fully into trying the seed with no prior info, on my side i want to know what i ingest.

"be informed, then choose" remains a fav moto thanks to Shulgin;)

[fuzz]

i finally got the pictures of the fruit and the seeds. seeds are supposed to taste a bit like almond. 3 is supposed to be enough for a trip.

here are pictures link:
http://people.tribe.net/gamatron/photos ... 560bf134d3

http://people.tribe.net/gamatron/photos ... 9fa173cc99

anyone with any new findings?
and NO it is not datura as opposed to what some might assume;)

[Bushpig]

Hi Fuzz, I can't find anything under the names "sanjevani, sanvani?" or anything sounding like that in the encyclopedia.  The leaves look almost fig like ? Got any other pics?

What about the area it is found in? alpine, woodland etc?

Bushpig

[Bushpig]

Just emailed the Royal botanical garden of Edinburgh who are currently working on a flora of Nepal, hopefullythey can shed some light on it.

Bushpig

[satoribaba]

Alternative readings: sajivani, sanjivani, samjivani, sajeevani, sanjeevani, samjeevani

The taste and texture is actually more akin to cashew, judging by the tiny chunk that ended up in my mouth as I split one of the seeds for the sample photo.

Fuzz, not fully into testing without prior info â€" I do have a friend who took the trip once and apparently was just fine afterwards! However I got the impression that he wasn't into doing it again â€" not that he's big on plants anyway. I am assuming he would give me a heads up if it took two weeks to recover...

[satoribaba]

The FRLHT (//http://www.frlht.org.in) site is a good help in finding English or Latin equivalents to Indic plants. It says Sanjivani would be Cressa cretica (CONVOLVULACEAE). The image is very blurred.

A quick search brings up Rudandi, a small shrub. Google Images tells the same story. This, however, was a small tree 2-3 meters high.

The word sanjivani itself means "endowed with life" or "fullness of life", ie. a revitalizer, depending how you interpret the san- prefix. This could conceivably be applied to a vast array of potent medicinal plants.