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Looking for Ayahuasca people in Colorado (have done it once)

Started by Dr. Pretorious, December 14, 2009, 11:44:48 PM

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Amomynous

Quote from: "Bushpig"You are a sovereign, their rules only apply to you with your consent. (OK the reality is that they will still try and lock you up).  I point you in the direction of what has now become known as 'The Freeman movement'.  Try:

http://www.thinkfree.ca and watch some of Rob Menards videos.  
http://www.thinkfreeforums.org/index.php
http://www.fmotl.com (mainly based on british stuff but worth a look)

Thanks. I'll check out the links.

I agree that we are ultimately sovereign over our own minds, and sometimes over our own bodies (but guns ans prisons muddy up that water a bit), and that's really what I was getting at when I said that I don't concur that any government has any right to tell me what I can and cannot consume. And if I'm not giving them that right, and "God" certainly hasn't given them that right, then where would it come from? Popular mandate? Doesn't work for me--my neighbors don't have any more "right" than the government does to do that!

So really the only thing I can do is be free in my mind, and to follow a path of discretion that will hopefully keep my body more-or-less free, too.

Like I said, I'll check out the links, but I am a little skeptical that there are useful "tools" to procuring freedom and sovereignty. 'Cause once you start playing by their rules, you're, well, playing by their rules. And if they right the rules they determine the range of game-play.

Amomynous

...which, by the way, is one of the structural issues with political activism. Trying to convince the government to do something "different" inherently accepts they have the right to do what they're going in the first place. You may think what they're doing is wrong, but trying to convince them of change invests them with the ultimate decision.

Bushpig

You're don't have to be playing by their rules though :D  You'll see as you read into it.  There are many ways to skin this rat,  either by enforcing your sovereignty and / or using their rule system against them...which can be beautifully done!

Booosh

Bushpig

As an addition to the links, you must have an understanding of the financial system to make sense of this info (nearly forgot!).  For a crash course search for a video called:

Money as debt 2
Money masters

And read up what you can on the fractional reserve.  Best to cover this stuf before the freeman stuff as it gives it the backdrop you need.  

Booosh


Amomynous

Quote from: "Bushpig"As an addition to the links, you must have an understanding of the financial system to make sense of this info (nearly forgot!).

One of the simplest and most concise (and deep) analysis of money systems I've seen was in Charles Eisenstein's Ascent of Humanity. It's a great book, and it it is also available freely on the web for reading:

http://www.ascentofhumanity.com/

Enki Gnemo

Im not going to read through this whole post,  but I can say the shaman I know in Colorado has licence to carry ayahuasca and  peyote as of winter before last.  You just have to be in the right place at the right time, and if you aren't, some people I know from apo could tell you where. the night of the equinox or solstice. Ceremonies begin at midnight and you must contribute 50$ or, if you can, more. Thing is there is always so many people there at my friends house. In that case it may be a peyote ceremony, the ayahuasca is usually too week for my blood. Maybe you could hire a shaman to do a circle, I dunno.  Ive had best results alone with  higher doses. Where legal. Dmt behind closed eyes is always lawfull. It's the hired goons that are confused. Awfully they do not see the way we do, and will always have an outside perspective on this inner aspect of life. Therefore Dmt is invisible practically unless In larger quantity, then it probably attracts such people with great need for the stuff.