shamanic plant blends

[panzuman]

hello! i am new to this community and i am excited about joining. i am also fairly new to shamanism. one of the problems of not having a teacher is that you must find your own shamanic blends and this is sometimes a very hard thing to do. i fear hat when i do experiment and make my own blend something will go wrong. i have many plants and herbs that i have recently purchased and i was wondering if any one knew of some blends. now i know of blends such as damiana and blue lotus and i understand that they must be well mixed but my problem is ratios. what ratios do these plants get mixed in. 70 30? 60 40? or maybe 50 50. and if you can please try to make your proportions by weight. and please NO CANNIBIS. i do believe it has powers but i also know that it is illeagal so it is off the list. now as for what im looking for experiance wise is something similar to K2 SUMMIT. i saw it as a great herbal blend but then to see that i waas being lied to and that it contained the lab chemical JWH-018 i was infuriated. im looking for a similar effect so please help.

sincerely a shaman in training

[Stonehenge]

I have some damiana but haven't tried it yet. I'm not sure about mixing it with blue lotus. None of those are toxic so why not experiment a little? Caapi vine with syrian rue is one combination. Add a little p viridis to spice it up. There are texts on the net with people's experiences as well as here.

[Amomynous]

How is this post any different than the one you opened in the Shaman's Hut a week or so ago (or for that matter the one you opened in the Medicine Lodge)?

There were several responses to the one in the Shaman's Hut; I think you'll find it easier to carry on a conversation and gather good information if you don't open up multiple copies of the same post; it just confuses things!

[Bram_]

I bought some Damiana at a smoking pipe shope here.  I smoked it and its amazing how much it feels like a hemp high;  I like it.  That Damiana is good stuff.  If you are looking for something to do why don't you try tea of banisteriopsis caapi wood and psychotria viridis leaves, it has great effects and is an ancient brew.

JLS

[Amomynous]

...why don't you try tea of banisteriopsis caapi wood and psychotria viridis leaves, it has great effects and is an ancient brew.  

Offhand, I can think of three reasons:

o He's looking for something to smoke; it's pretty hard to smoke caapi tea.

o The effects are vastly different than what he's looking for.

o In most cases it's illegal.

Caapi tea is great; it just doesn't meet the criteria.

If the question were simply "what are some great smoked shamanic materials?" I would recommend changa, which is itself quite extraordinary (but pretty powerful, so I wouldn't recommend using it more than a few times a month), but even that fails two of his three-point test.

[Bram_]

Ahhh....Changa, I have never tried Changa..

JLS

[Bram_]

I can also recommend smoking Chaliponga leaves, it is sortof an excellent smoke like mild hemp feeling.  I have just been rolling dried pieces of Chaliponga leaves in halfware shag tobacco rolling papers (like TOP, Bugler, Drum, Zig Zag, etc.) and smoking them...

JLS

[Bram_]

What is this Changa you are talkining about?  I tried a search on Changa and got nothing about a plant name Changa, what is the species name of this Changa plant?  Thanks.

JLS

[Amomynous]

What is this Changa you are talkining about?  I tried a search on Changa and got nothing about a plant name Changa, what is the species name of this Changa plant?

Changa is a preparation that is becoming increasingly popular in some places (especially Australia, where it was developed). It's more of a "class" than a "thing," as everyone has their own recipe.

Visionary tryptamines (n.nDMT) are extracted from a suitable plant (usually an Acacia or M. hostillis). They are then dissolved and infused upon a plant carrier, often a mixture of herbs (sometimes containing things like blue lotus, but always containing B. caapi leaves). And while there are MAOIs in the caapi leaves, additional freebased harmala alkaloids are sometimes added to change the pharmacokenetics of the preparation.

It isn't too challenging to make, but it takes knowledge, skill, and practice--in other words, commitment. But that's good, because using it take some commitment too.

It probably should be considered illegal in most places.