My 2 experiences

[Layth]

First I will post my story, then I have a few questions..
It's probably not strictly necessary to read the story, so depending on your level of interest / expertise it might be more fitting to skip to the bottom for the questions.

Anyway, here are my first two experiences:

I've smoked salvia before.. years ago.
The first time I did it, a rolling ball suddenly existed that I could feel..

It came down the hallway towards me, and it was like it had it's own gravitational pull.
As the ball rolled towards me, I felt physical rolling gravity on my own body.

I felt like the sphere was a consciousness that was a part of me.
It never got to me.. I never got sucked into its gravitational pull

When it went away, and I kept saying out loud "What WAS that?!?" in a very confused manner... I'd never experienced anything like that before

So I went to a head shop yesterday, and I purchased some Savlia Divinorum that is 35x concentrated instead of 10x like I had previously experienced.

So I go outside, then into the extra garage behind my house, I pack it into the water bong and I just use a little bit.. I only bought half a gram for $40, so I put in about an eigth of that half gram and fire it up.. I inhale all of it.

Suddenly I heard a voice in my head.. This is a lot stronger than last time.
The voice told me it's not going to stop short this time, it's going to really happen.

I knew it was stronger this time, I could already feel it and the world started spinning again inside of my head on an elipse. Spinning to the right, vertically, the entire thing. Suddenly, I realize - This is going to spin my head off like the top of a screw.

Everything was pushing to the right, the world lifted to the sky and I blacked out..
I felt my hand. It was on something.. a conveyor belt.. people using savlia usally feel pulled.. but I hadn't read that at the time (earlier today)

I didn't know what was going on, I was in a completely different world.
Someone else was there, he looked like a train conductor.

The conveyor belt had me by the hand, I was so confused and it was pulling me in.
I wasn't in my garage anymore, I wasn't even myself.

I didn't know that I had just smoked something, I couldn't see any part of the real world. As my hand got pulled under the conveyor belt.. it wasn't painful but my hand was still on the other side.. it got pressed into a wall like the conveyor belt had a steam roller at thend.

As my arm got sucked under the conveyor belt, my arm was attached to the wall too and eventually my entire body got pulled in.. I was somewhere else now, I was in a different world for a second time and now I was attached to a wall. I felt like I had been screaming during the conveyor belt, and I didn't know what was happening

I don't know why I decided to put my hand inside of the conveyor belt, and I didn't know who or where I was.

I pulled myself off the wall.. detaching myself. Then I worked the way up to my arm. Finally I ripped myself apart from it, ripping myself out of the world like a cookie cutter shape ripping itself from the dough on a buttered sheet. I ripped myself out of the only world I had ever known.. I didn't know where I could possibly go, nothing made any sense.. then as I pulled myself fully from the wall I landed back inside of the garage, still with no idea who I was.. I still didn't know that I had smoked anything until I saw the bong..

Then it started to make sense. I started to remember what reality was like.
I didn't really trust it though.. I was just someone else 1 second ago, and I had a different life..

The salvia gravity started pressing on me again, and the world started to spin..
I fought it, said not like this.. I'll go there again but not this way.

Then I put away the bong and left the garage.
My life came back to me in little objective pieces, it was strange.

Kind of scary since I didn't know I had even smoked anything.. and I had amensia that slowly recovered over the next 10 minutes

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So, those are both really bizzarre but intriguing experiences.
The last one was very scary and confusing at the time, though.

I am very much into self improvement, enlightenment and actualization but so far I haven't had an experience w/ salvia that would add to this goal.

Although it was interesting to rediscover my life after amensia.. that was a bit of a different perspective. Still, it is not causing growth or change.. perhaps with continued efforts.

Should I be scared of doing it again.. ? I mean a scary experience is one thing but can anything really bad actually happen ? What can I do to try to make it a better experience?

[Layth]

I've read other peoples stories.. and a lot of the other first timers have nonsense just like my experience.

I read the websites and they say that it is a substance used by mystics, that it aids in self development but does anyone have a story where salvia actually benefitted their life in a real way?

[Layth]

I just smoked it again an hour ago.

This time I used 10x instead of 35x.. it still blew my mind away.
I had no idea what was happening, who I was or what the world was.

I had a sitter this time though, my gf, and I kept asking her to tell me it was going to be ok.. I saw another family that I had in another place.

They were trying to take me to this other world I was next to..
It's like I was a rolling ball between the two of them.

I was so scared of losing myself though, of not coming back..
I didn't have it in me to let go ::disappointment::


.. I really feel like I will completely enter their world if I could do that.. but I asked them to stop. They did, at my request.. I was like a frightened animal. Thank god I wasn't alone..

I've written stuff down for my gf to tell me next time I try this so she can orient me. Stuff like telling me that I've just smoked salvia divinorum.

I never have any idea what the hell is going on.

The fact that I had someone else there REALLY helped me out.

[ThirstyBulldog]

I am very much into self improvement, enlightenment and actualization but so far I haven't had an experience w/ salvia that would add to this goal.

Although it was interesting to rediscover my life after amensia.. that was a bit of a different perspective. Still, it is not causing growth or change.. perhaps with continued efforts.

... What can I do to try to make it a better experience?

Wow, interesting stories

I don't yet have much experience with salvia (well, none actually) but something I'm planning for when I get around to it is to write down the experience, as detailed as possible, coming back to edit it whenever I remember something additional. Writing stuff down can do wonders for self-reflection and such, which is why you might want to try it in addition to salvia. At the very least if you do this for your salvia experiences you can better compare and reflect on them. (Heh, sorry to sound like an English 101 course.)

Personal growth, self-actualization, etc. can be a long process depending on the person. I've read someone here having their outlook on life changed by one experience, but I imagine it's different for everyone, many things are. Gotta give a little to get a little, working on oneself does actually require working on oneself (writing can help); a little plant can't do all the work. Keep at it.

[Layth]

haha very true.. I have bought some 5x so hopefully that won't be as scary this time..

Apparently my first experience was a 'level 6' since I've remembered even more now from when i blacked out..

I feel like the experience isn't over yet, I'm still in the first stage until I can learn to just let go and stop fighting it.. maybe then salvia can give some real food to my mind

I have definately been dwelling on the past experiences for some time in my mind.

When are you planning on experimenting with divinorum?

[ThirstyBulldog]

My only cutting is still very young, so at the very least a year, but I'm patient   I want to do the quidding method anyway, so will need fresh leaves for that. Watching it grow is fun, too.