Kratom and SD mixed

[DrYRHead]

The Idea of mixing Kratom and SD came up on another forum.

One has found that Salvia divinorum has a strong synergic reaction when mixed with tryptamines, and the mitragynine and other alkaloids in kratom are indole alkaloids of the tryptamine type class of substances. Such that, there could, indeed, be a strong synergy between the two plants. Kratom also seems to have some opiate like properties indicating an affinity for some of the opioid/endorphin receptors.

The Salvinorin A in SD also binds with the Kappa opioid receptor. This could also cause a strong synergy between the two. Because of the possibility of the multiplied effects. One would think that it would be best to approach such a combination with only a small amount of the two herbs at any given time.  


References;

Here are some articles from Erowid about Kratom that talk about it
http://www.erowid.org/plants/kratom/kratom_info3.shtml and
http://www.erowid.org/plants/kratom/kratom_bits.shtml

Here, also, is an article from Erowid about Salvia divinorum's affinity for the Kappa opioid receptor. http://www.erowid.org/plants/salvia/salvia_info5.shtml



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A Kratom and Salvia Divinorum Incense Mix
 
One fine night, the scepter came in front of Jimmy. In it there was a mixture of 0.2g of 15X Kratom resin and 0.2g of plain SD leaf. The scepter was well packed. It took him five drags to finish off the contents of the scepter. Within a minute, the effects set in upon him. The following story is what he had to say about such.
 
Wham, the effect came over me strong. There was, indeed, a synergy between these two herbs. 200mg of either herb alone only get me a mild effect, but together the effects were multiplied.
 
In the vision, I saw a fragmented picture of some of those elf-trees. The scene of the painting, however, was shattered into seven sections. These sections let through a scene of my Gram's house as it looked many years ago. The whole scene seemed to rock back and forth. In the scene my father and an uncle were talking near the back of the house. They looked younger than they are now. Perhaps, this scene was from 20 to 30 years ago. The scene is behind the fragmented pieces of the painting. It was cut across like a pizza pie of 14 slices. however, it was reality and a painting of an elf-tree that were cut into these pieces. Then the scene melted into something else.
 
The elf tree's roots went out as a net-work. A net-work connecting the family and community. It was some sort of symbolic family tree representation. This, too, became a fractal spiral. The  kaleidoscopic spiral then flew over a coffee house. I see painting at this place in the vision. I have to do more with these pics, I thought. These visions faded at about the half hour mark.
 
The effects that followed seemed to be Kraton like. However, there were still trails coming off of my hands in the light. The glazed over mellow feeling was Kraton like, but there were lingering mild hallucinogenic effects that were not kratom like. These lasted longer than smoking SD would have. The total effects lasted about two and a half hours. This seemed like a nice mix.

[Amomynous]

For what it's worth, I've found that Kratom and Salvia do in fact have a synergy, and a wonderful one at that. But it's not a synergy of potentiation. If anything, kratom seems to rachet down the intensity of Salvia. But it affects changes in the quality of the experience, which are very much worth exploring.

One a few occasions I've taken a Salvia tincture a few hours after a moderate-to-strong dose of kratom, and I found the effect quite blissful. Normally I find Salvia somewhat dysphoric, but the dysphoria is mostly mitigated by the kratom.

I'm not the only person who has found this synergy. Here's a post from an email list I'm subscribed to:

11:37 I took a large dose of homemade Salvia tincture sublingually around 10:15. The effects of Salvia when taken atop kratom were unbelievably powerful. I soon was traveling between multiple timelines, or rather dwelling in a hyperspace between them all, touching them all.  Closed eye visuals, memories, hopes, fears, existences were shuffled almost as a deck of cards was. Remain immobile lying on a couch, I'd be safe in 10000 realities that way. In each of those where I was, I was safe on the couch, and I knew if i did not move, no harm would befall me in any of the realities. I ascended a hill on top of which was the temple of a goddess who was Salvia, but upon entering the temple I discovered that Salvia was an avatar of the Goddess of Necessity, an aspect of Almighty Reality --- That that which is IS.