Co-Op Buy for Messenger, Mighty Plant anyone? Please?

[Jaeda]

Hey all! I'm posting in hopes that a good many of you will be willing to go in on a "co-op" type purchase of two particular gardening products that I was introduced to and absolutely fell in love with! After being a regular customer with them for awhile I found out that with my small business license I could upgrade my account for more discounts on their products along with the bonus of not having to pay sales tax! The company has approved my business for retailing their products both online and at actual physical locations - so everything is on the up and up.

The main products that I am so keen on are Messenger - which you mix into a near-clear spray for your plants and apply every 2-4 weeks (or per your own schedule). It is sprayed onto the plant itself rather than provided like watering a plant and helps the plants to absorb all of the good stuff they need using what they refer to as harpin technology. I ran control groups of plants two years running for this product and also the other one that I will get to a moment, and I absolutely swear by the results - for my edibles, flowers, trees, shrubs, even my succulents and the lawn! This stuff absolutely rocks!

The other product is Mighty Plant, a fertilizer that is balanced at a cool/nice 18-18-18 (amongst other perks) - perfect for Brugmansia and Datura for example. Used in conjunction with Messenger and the results were awesome! In respect to edibles, like tomato plants, I was growing fewer plants with higher yield and the plants remained healthy and even wanted to be perennials despite my zone/climate.

At any rate, right now they are running a sale on one and with my business account I can get a discount for buying in bulk on another. I *really* want to order in bulk! But since my business is just starting out there is of course the usual lack of funding for such a bulk order - that's where you all come in. I don't have to charge anyone sales tax and the only cost over _actual product cost_ would simply be the meager amount for postage to ship out to different co-op-buyers and I don't pad postage costs, those would be actual cost as well depending upon the type of mailing you wanted and/or weight.

The Mighty Plant 18-18-18 plant food comes in single dose packets that you mix with a gallon of water - and right now it can be gotten at 60 cents a packet OR - if more is ordered, as low as 35 cents a packet. The "catch" is that to do it at 60 cents a packet, a minimum of 100 packets ($60 total) has to be ordered... or a minimum of 400 packets ($140 total) has to be ordered to get it at 35 cents a packet. They sell it at $1 a single dose packet on their site...

The Messenger comes in single dose packets that you mix with a gallon of water and then spray (I recommend misting as fine as possible onto the entire plant)... they sell it for $3 a packet on their site, they recommend retailing it at $4.99 a packet (which is what nurseries and other gardening centers are doing), but by purchasing it in bulk we can get the price down to as little as $1.65 a packet. The only way to catch that deal is a minimum order of 60 packets at a total of $99

With the Messenger, if you don't use an entire packet, as long as you airtight seal it, you can keep it for about 2 weeks to mix with the appropriate amount of water and spray again. (this is how I was doing it when working with fewer plants)

With both products I cannot even begin to tell you how convenient it is to have the single dose packets.

I'd really-really-really like to get in a bulk order for at least 60 of the Messenger single dose packets and 100 of the Mighty Plant... and that's where co-op'ing comes in. You can store packets unopened, so it's a good opportunity to stock up for this season or even to have some extra to carry you over into next year -- all depends on what your gardening habits are and scheduling you use for fertilizing, etc.

If you're interested, please contact me via the private message function for personal information/details - general discussion or questions about the products I would imagine would be just fine on this thread. I just don't want to have anyone giving out personal info on a public access area, ya know? I can accept various forms of payment, including PayPal... and with PayPal, two options - either the cash/instant transfer, e-check types that are non-credit or for those using credit cards (since PayPal taps fees on those) I have access/permission to use a credit card accepting account by with that you have to tack on about 3% of the total in order to actually get full funds sent through - it's a fee I can't avoid and can't "suck up" unfortunately. Can also do ground mail payments - checks of course have to clear, USPS money orders are better.

If you'd like to check out these products - or others - from this company, their website url is: //http://www.edenbio.com Who knows, you may see something else that you'd like to order that I can get at a better price for you. This is NOT a scam... so totally not.... I just know that I LOVE this stuff and want to market it locally, but for my online plant community pals I'd rather you all got the best deal possible and I'm in a position with this company now to do that.

[Stonehenge]

I don't know, this should probably be in the trade forum. I tried messenger a few years back and was not impressed with the results. Has anyone else tried it and liked it? Mighty plant sounds like ordinary fertilizer like peter's or others. 60 cents a gallon is not cheap and 35 cents is not cheap either. It costs probably a nickle a gallon with peter's 20 20 20.

This thread might be removed after we discuss it further. There are policies about how long you have to be a member before offering things for sale.

[Jaeda]

I sent a PM to Avery inquiring about posting the co-op thread in Trade Winds since I read the policies for that forum and where sales are concerned. In not yet knowing if it would be allowed there or not, I opted for two other forums that seem more generalized.

Messenger and Mighty Plant... for us that used it around here (and some further away but still in close contact with) in 2004 and 2005 in our general gardening and also in controlled trials, they rocked!

Me, personally, I love the convenience of the single dose packets. The products can be gotten in larger sizes, but those are more for those working on a far greater scale than I am... like entire fields of crops or good sized nurseries. I also can't find Peter's around here anywhere... and I've become increasingly more turned off of Miracle-Gro and MG-like products because of the salts and the nasty build up in my container growing. Can't deny the initial results, but in the longterm - I've scrubbed enough salts away to last me a lifetime.

At any rate, this is a no-profit-for-me deal, hence a co-op. I know one was already done elsewhere on the Mighty Plant, but not at a place I frequent personally. Got to talking with some other Bruggies that used it last year and are wanting more and from there talked to the company in regards to my SBL, and found out that costs can be cut more - including no sales tax - thus making a co-op buy-in more reasonable. Even I wouldn't use 100 gallons of plant food/fertilizer in a season, so I don't need that much (though I could just save it for the next season)... so the simple way is to just put out the word and then put in a bulk order and me ship out to folks whatever amount they wanted/paid for.

Thus far, I haven't come across something on the market that I like better or that has proven to have better results. Won't be long now before I start the seedlings on it and as soon as we get through this very frustrating cold-nights-weather, I'll be putting it to use on all of my container plants that I moved out too soon evidently because they're going to need all the help they can get to recover from these frosts. (you don't want to know how hacked off I am about the night temperatures - I'll just spit if I end up losing all of my base stock)