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Well that answers my question...thanks Michael.

 The coments on the site where basicaly this cactus contain mescaline such as here >http://www.naturensdroger.nu/sv/dept_165.html which i guessed were a bit of a sell point for the cactus and your info backing that up. I suspected by the lack of info out there that this may have been the case.

 As for where i got the idea of native use of gymo's was the fact that a few sites are listing them along side the trichs and lophs under mescaline containing cacti. So when i say sketchy i mean as in i know they come from Argintina and they contain mescaline, sorry to get your hopes up there.

Yes it may have been a bit of a leap on my behalf, hey one can only hope!

My limited experience is that these are somewhat more difficult to grow without rotting.

 Well funny you should say that, as say you have a gymo that does rot and its reached a reasonable size and cannot be saved, one comes up with the question ive asked  :?:

 :wink:

Now ive read a lot about certain Gymnocalyciums that contain active compounds such as mescaline. Most of this information is found on sites where there are trying to sell the cacti ,so im sure its slightly one sided and any information on Argentinan traditional use of Gymno's is sketchy at best. Being reletivly slow growers compared to trichs i can see why there is not a lot of info about this as it not practical to grow them for this purpose.

 My question is has anyone actually used Gymnos such as baldianum, gibbosum or quehlianum or know of info about them being used in a tradition sense?
 
If so what where the results?

cheers

Thats great news MS.....will be looking forward to that one for sure!

Aye the greenkin are amazing to watch and it is a symbiotic relationship, the more time you spend with them and taking care of the the more they give back. Though i do try and avoid stroking my cacti(ouch).

I speak to them play them music, basicaly anything that they enjoy i try and do, as to nurture and love them is to nurture and love life itself.

Talking to the greenkin and such has revealed a lot to to me bout mankinds connection to the plant world and one thing i have found is that the plants have in increadible memories...they are a reminder of who we are and where we came from. Unlike humans whom forget so easily.

What they have given me is a respect and wonder for mother nature and the cycle of life....i really can't think of any better gift!