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#1
The Salvia Plane /
April 18, 2006, 08:27:55 PM
Quote from: "mykayl"Oh, really? They read his suicide note on TV, and he made it perfectly clear that SD showed him the reality that we're all just specks, life is pointless, and that he would be happy committing suicide. That's pretty clear-cut. You can't argue with the boy...

Smoked SD causes a dissociative state, and it can make you black out and do irrational, dangerous things. PCP does the exact same thing. It doesn't matter if Salvinorin A is chemically different than PCP and stimulates different receptors; the variety of outcomes is the same. I can handle smoking PCP because I'm a sane, rational individual with a healthy ego, and because I've had 20 years of experience with hallucinogens; I don't choose to, but I have the life-experiences and state of mind to get through something like that. That doesn't apply to everyone else that might smoke PCP, nor does it apply to everyone else who might smoke SD, which is just as harsh on the psyche. We live in an isolative culture that is a breeding ground for dissociative disorders; SD used by a wide variety of people in the general public is going to have the same impact as PCP, whether you like it or not. I've already seen proof of that in the youth subcultures of my own town, where it's readily available at local head shops. Despite all the hype about it not being addictive or habitual, kids around here are smoking it like pot, and it's influencing their behavior in a lot of negative ways.

Some wigger asshole almost shot me under the influence of SD because he had some paranoid delusion that I was a vampire and that he was a vampire hunter. Don't tell me that this shit isn't dangerous; it's already become a concern for law enforcement.

You're right; you ARE too stoned to type. Just because something is good for a you and a small group of similar-minded people doesn't mean it's good or safe for everyone.

Tragic as it may be this kid was destined to commit suicide.  Whether he was smoking SD or not.  It's always the same old shit..."he never showed any signs, he had straight A's in school...blah, blah, blah."  No one really knew what was going on inside his mind but he was going to attempt it regardless.  The thoughts were already present in his mind before smoking.

There's always going to be people out there who "can't handle" what they're doing at the time, whether they're under the influence of something or not.  Whether it's driving a car on a rainy day or the pressures forced upon us at work or with family.  This kid couldn't handle it and decided the best method was to get out by ending his life.

I ask you...How many times have you been fed up with how things have been going on in your life?  What do you do to relieve the stress or take your mind to another place?  Drink a few beers/glass of wine?  Take a couple of bong hits?  Hit the gym, exercise?  Just a few examples of what people do to take the edge off on a daily basis.  So many options out there yet the weak minded see things as hopeless.
#2
The Salvia Plane /
April 18, 2006, 12:52:25 AM
Thanks for the insight.  :wink:
#3
The Salvia Plane / Sitter?
April 17, 2006, 09:34:31 PM
New to this forum obviously but I've been reading and browsing over several of the posts here along with researching on other sites gathering as much information on Salvia as I can before I decide to try it.

I notice that having a sitter is one of the recommendations while being in the realm of Salvia.  Is this totally neccesary?  From reading experiences from users I've yet to see one where someone has actually caused harm to themselves or others.  Or is this more a precautionary measure?  As I look around my living room I see the glass coffee table that undoubtedly I would put out of harms way but I'm just wondering if just sitting/laying on my sofa by myself would still have a risk factor of me getting up and walking outside in the hallway of my condo perhaps confronting someone.  

From reading some of the posts it seems like when doing Salvia you really have no knowledge of what's reality or what is not.  Unlike acid where you have the visuals but you're aware of why it's happening and you're more in control of your surroundings.