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Big thanks to all of you who replied.  Your posts have been extremely helpful.
     After some thought, I've decided to go with an ounce of plain leaf and a gram of 5x extract.  If I'm particularly insenstive, and smoking the ounce over the course of time doesn't help enough with the reverse tolerance effect, hopefully the 5x will do it.  I know that even 20x doesn't make it for some people, but this seems like a good place to start.
     I very much like the idea of growing my own salvia.  That would be my preference.  But never having done it before, I want to give a try first.  I feel a strong attraction to it, and I strongly doubt that I'll dislike it for what it is and does (even if it ends up being scary as hell), but I want to see for myself what it's all about first.  
     I've also never grown anything before, and cultivation of the plant is one thing I haven't read much about.  I thought I read somewhere that it's not too hard to grow, but I've seen lots of posts about how many problems some people have keeping it alive.  We'll see.  If I decide I want a long term relationship with it, I'll certainly look into growing it myself.  
     For some reason it never occured to me that not wanting message boards to turn into giant salvia vendor advertisements was the reason I couldn't find info about vender legitimacy.  Makes sense.  
     I was pretty 'noid about just buying from anyone, though, especially places with especially cheap prices.  I went in with some friends of mine on some stuff (forget what it was called)  a couple years back, and was terribly disappointed.  I didn't know if salvia was something that particularly dishonest people would substitute with other non-salvia herbs, or if there was a problem with really low grade stuff being sold.
     Anyway, thanks again for all the info.  I'll be ordering it tonight, and I imagine I'll get it sometime early next week.  So I'll probably try it for the first time somewhere around then.  And if not for whatever reason, whenever it feels right.  I'll let you all know what happens.  Later
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Hey all.  I'm new to this forum, and to salvia.  
     First of all, I've yet to try it myself, but I'm extremely interested.  I've done LSD and shrooms before, and my tolerance to most drugs is pretty ridiculous in general, but I've read tons of info about salvia over the past few days and I've heard that such tolerance shouldn't be taken as any indicator as to how it will affect you.
     Anyway, onto my main question.
     I've been combing message boards for HOURS looking for information about places to buy it online...I.E, who's stuff is good, who's is garbage.  I apologize if this topic was already addressed on this board (think I looked through all of it), and I...Basically, it seems like everyone would be asking the same thing as me, given how rampant rip-offs, especially when it comes to things like this, are online.  And I can't imagine why there aren't more postings and voluntary recommendations about it, since it's legal.
     But is there anyone on this board who buys salvia from an online vendor, or who has bought from several and can make recommendations?  Or if you're not comfortable with promoting said site for whatever reason, at least inform me if the stuff you got from them was decent or not?  
     I'm out of work and very broke at the moment, but I've got a little cash I can spend and a strong interest in salvia, so it's sort of a one shot deal to me until things pick up on the financial front.  I'd hate to spend x amount of money on some garbage, have it not work, and be so put off by it that I lose interest.  
     SageWisdom seems legit, but their prices are also some of the highest I've come across.  LadySalvia.net (I think it is?) and iamshaman.com have much better prices, but since there is such a vast difference between them and sage wisdom...You know...Don't know if their lower prices indicate a worthless product or not.
     One last question...
     My interest in salvia is not as a drug.  I'm interested in it as a tool, so to speak.  I have certain...Ah, words suck...Spiritual objectives, I guess you could say, that I feel it could help me with.  
     I'm seeking what would be a level 4 to 5 experience(s), and I don't know what potency of product is necessary for that.
     Can you reasonably (smoke enough quickly enough without passing out or something) achieve effects of that potency from regular, unenhanced leaves, or do you really need to go with some kind of enhanced leaf or some such for that?  I've read different things, and I'm looking for more input.
     I don't know if enhanced leaves, etc, simply allow you to get there more quickly and easily with less work, or if it's more like weed...You know, you can smoke garbage all day, and you're not going to get as high as you will off of a little really good stuff.  Any opinions will be appreciated.
      Not necessary to say, just thought I'd throw it in here...But one concern of mine is that I wouldn't want to do anything TOO powerful right off the bat...My girlfriend's going to be my sitter, and she's much smaller than me...So if I got too incoherant right off the bat and tried to run out to my car and drive off (like I heard of one person doing) she wouldn't reasonably be able to restrain me.  I'd like to do something that will get me where I'm trying to go, but in a bit more of a controlled way so I'm not fine one minute and totally gone the next.
     Anyway, that's it.  Thanks for takin' the time, and any response is appreciated.  

-Luke

P.S.  One of my concerns about the very few recommendations that I've read for this and that online vendor is that the one doing the recommending might be the owner of the site they're promoting.  This is pointless, since anyone doing that isn't going to be concerned about ripping off one more person...But it goes without saying that I'd rather not get responses from someone saying good things about a particular site simply because they stand to profit from it.  Thank you.