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DSO = great cover band
John Mayer = makes me miss Jerry so much I'm sad

By which I mean Dead and Co is a terrible knock off of DSO.  You can have original remembers and still feel like a cover band . While the energy of the scene around dead and co has increased, I just can only appreciate the most minor of positive aspects around how the music has developed.

Eating this (English name:Poison nut) would likely suck too.  I am not into cobra venom, although it has seduced a friend or two into mind-brain smoothies.  If the seeds were consumable, one would be way more than a dose. 

I had spent a whole night tr*pping hearing someone fiendishly talk about cobra venom as a drug around the same time.   

There is just something that speaks to me about the fruit.

Funny how every year there is a blog or two that mentions it, and how many of the bloggers are dead.

Tabernaemontana dichotoma is known as the forbidden fruit.  It is regarded as the actual tree which was involved with Eve and Adam's fall.  It is pretty hard to find round here.

A few years ago a few seeds -priced like overhyped cannabis seed -showed up on ebay.  I talked with.the seller and he implied they were a drug like cobra venom, but much stronger.  So.I bought them, he sent them twice, nothing.  I have seen either the same or, likely, another vendor on the same site rarely.

Anyone know anything about it? Has anyone ever seen one?


This is Tabernaemontana dichotoma Roxb NOT the other T dichotoma (Sesse and Moc) which is from the Americas and completely different.


AKA  Pagiantha dichotoma


AKA Divi kaduru

I do not know of any plants that are species specific.  There are definately barriers that can prevent hybridization but there are certainly many examples of.tabernathe and tabernaemontana hybrids, naturally even.  I have heard some believe (flying spaghetti monster???) that the round or oblong (memory of an old man) was a natural hybrid, although that is likely bull

i have a dozen buds on my africana...  I will save pollen if no one has any in time.

Who wants tabaemontana africa pollen?  What you got to loose??!?!

My t africana blooms well, but she is lonely.

Anyone have a related specie and want to trade pollen?

Since the inherent cost is low, anyone want to try other genera for.hybridization, tabernathe, voacanga maybe even

Let's bring the site back with some hybrids!

Bump bump bump

How are they doing now?

Himdumb, you should be proud.  Have you promoted this at the nook, shaman australis forum, the shroomery, rollitup etc.?  Best of luck

Hey, I have some verries from a psychotria nervosa that bloomed and was bee pollinated alongside with the p  carthagenensis? (whatever alba maybe).  You will have to assume if each is p nervisa x p nervosa,  or p nervosa x p ?cathagenensis.  Just shoot me a pm and i will start the process of doing something.  I am too slow to, just a gift.  My p cartha and p nervosas are currently very challenged, sadly.  I can send you (or anyoje who us patient bc it might take me ten million years and two days) wild p nervosa with collection data.

In some ways the common usa popular cultivar of psychotria un-viridis, whatever it us, alba, carthagenensis, or some weird viridis extreme, looks a lot like p nervosa.  It is taller, i think, and less scrubby, but the p nervosa flowers and leaves are very similar.  I haven't seen the real chakruna flower yet, but its leaves and care seem less similar to the other two.

Nervosa may have dmt but I am pretty unsure about that, lets say it does not unless someone finds out and blabs (if you find dmt there shhhhhhhh) I am not covering this up, though, it probably not there, and I have never looked

The link you posted has been removed.  Since many members here are infrequent visitors nowadays  this is the text they didnt want the internet underground seeing:

Dear all,The 2012 INCB report came out in which the International Narcotics Control Board continues with the coarse they set in their 2010 report (more info on the 2010 report: http://news.iceers.org/2011/06/criminalization-ethnobotanicals-incb)They present the growing interest in psychoactive ethnobotanicals such as Iboga and Ayahuasca as problematic, abusive and for recreational purposes.(read page 46-47)-----6. Plant materials not under international control containing psychoactive substances328. The utilization of plant-based preparations that are not under international control and which contain natural psychoactive ingredients is often part of traditionalindigenous rituals, traditional medicine and religious ceremonies. Examples of the plants or parts of plants from which such preparations are concocted include khat(Catha edulis) from East Africa and the Arabian peninsula; ayahuasca, a preparation made from plants indigenous to the Amazon basin of South America, most importantlya jungle vine (Banisteriopsis capii) and another tryptamine-rich plant (Psychotria viridis), containing a number of psychoactive alkaloids, including DMT; the peyote cactus(Lophophora williamsii), containing mescaline; magic mushrooms (Psilocybe), which contain psilocybine and psilocine; Ephedra, containing ephedrine; "kratom"(Mitragyna speciosa), a plant indigenous to South-East Asia containing mitragynine; Salvia divinorum, a plant originating in Mexico that contains the hallucinogen salvinorin A;and iboga (Tabernanthe iboga), native to western Central Africa, containing the hallucinogen ibogaine.329. The Board pointed out some of the problems related to the use of those plant materials outside their original socioeconomic context in its annual report for 2010 (paras. 284-287).Since then, increasing interest in the use of such plant materials for recreational purposes has been noted, possibly encouraged by a lack of clarity with regard to the control statusof the plants at the national or the international level. At present, no plants, including the ones containing psychoactive ingredients, are controlled under the 1971 Convention,although the active ingredients they contain are sometimes subject to international control. For example, cathine and DMT are psychotropic substances included in Schedule Iof the 1971 Convention, while the plants and plant-based preparations that contain them, namely khat and ayahuasca, respectively, are not subject to any restrictions or control measures.This situation is seemingly exploited by drug trafficking networks and online retailers, resulting in increased trade, use and abuse of these plant materials in many countries.330. The easy availability of those plant materials through the Internet is evidenced in the 2011 EMCDDA survey on the online availability of new psychoactive substances in the European Union.According to that survey, the most commonly sold new psychoactive substances based on CHAPTER II. FUNCTIONING OF THE INTERNATIONAL DRUG CONTROL SYSTEM 47natural products in Europe include "kratom", Salvia divinorum, ayahuasca and hallucinogenic mushrooms.331. Furthermore, the Board notes the increasing popularity of practices that purportedly have spiritual connotations, such as "spiritual tourism", under the cover of which the plant-basedpsychoactive materials are consumed. Several centres around the world offer "initiatory journeys" with the presence and assistance of a shaman. Some online travel agencies offer "initiatoryjourneys" "supervised" by shamans, although such events are usually totally outside the sociocultural context that they claim to represent. Shamanic practices during such initiatory journeys,such as trance, ecstasies, hallucination and divination, are reached mainly through the ingestion of preparations made out of plant materials containing the psychoactive substances mentioned above.332. The Board notes with concern that the use of those substances has been associated with various serious health risks (both physical and psychological) and even with death.The Board therefore wishes to draw the attention of Governments to the fact that the use of such plant materials for whatever purpose could be unsafe practice.333. In view of the health risks associated with those materials, a growing number of Governments have placed such material or preparations under national control, or are considering doing so,and are taking other measures to prevent negative health consequences of such use. For example, in 2009 Salvia divinorum emerged in Canada as a substance of concern;in 2010, an estimated 1.6 per cent of Canadians aged 15 years and over had used the substance in their lifetime and 0.3 per cent reported having used it in the past year.Although Salvia divinorum is not currently scheduled under the Controlled Drugs and Substances Act, Health Canada has proposed to include it as a controlled substance under that Act.In the United States, the substance has been placed on the Drug Enforcement Administration's "Drugs and Chemicals of Concern" list. In addition, several states in the United Stateshave banned the substance.334. The Board reiterates its recommendation to the Governments of countries where the misuse and trafficking of such plant materials may occur to remain vigilant and recommends thatappropriate action be taken at the national level where the situation so requires.-------

I am looking to purchase bulk kratom plants.  They are not going to be resold, but planted in a few different areas.  I would be interested in talking to a member of this forum who has an established kratom tree, who is in Mexico (preferred) or North America, who would like to take on a project like this.

I love tequila.

I spend hours thinking about it.  It really has stopped me from drinking, because now I just slowly sip that delicious agave extract.

Perhaps you are all just drinking Jose and think that you are drinking tequila?  Definately avoid anything that is not 100% agave, go for an anejo, and avoid the top few brands of Jose, Patron, etc.

Also, though, tequila is mystical shit.  I do not recommend mixing it, or taking it as shots.  Sip it from a small glass.  

It's 6:08 am but my friend El Tesoro is calling me!

I have had some great Turkish honeys, but the best honey i have had was Black Seed honey from Lebanon.

It did make me crazy, though, come to think about it.

It is toxic, i think the suggestion was to "practace" with one so as to know enoigh about herp care as to be able to talk the talk.

They have a reputation of being common and mean, and thus undesirable, a prof. once told me.  He took trips to the amazon and mentioned yopo snuffs.  I got the feeling they could be bought easily but that since they were drug producing and unpopular that they were a little suspicious on any retail level.

Here are two threads from the top of the rain forest about AJ's stuff.  aJ also has a rep for delivering plants.  I have not ordered anything from him myself.  Why do so many people ONLY read the trade winds?  

//http://www.spiritplants.org/rain-forest/topic4357.html
//http://www.spiritplants.org/rain-forest/topic4394.html