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Have lots of 5 ml and some 1 ml syringes... unopened needles, 18 and 23 gauge

trade for seeds or plant or plant material....

Anti civilization attitude of biblegod.

It is known that the early man was a hunter. His very existence depended on finding good hunts on regular basis. Unfortunately, his prey did not understand this problem of man, and successful hunts were not quite as regularly happening as was desired by the man.

Further, hunting did involve a high level of danger too. Some the hunters themselves suffered the ignominy of ending up as dinner of some other animal, or even of another neighboring tribe.
 

The insecurity of food supp;y definitely a stumbling block. But the problem was alleviated some what by the advent of gatherer stage, where those not on hunting expeditions supplemented the diet by gathering plant products.

Real security of food supply was achieved only when man graduated to first reaping of the natural crops then actively planting them.

But agricultural produce required better cooking techniques than those required by meat. This required a certain level of specialization in the fields of grinding technology, pottery etc. Once this was achieved, the population increased at an unprecedented rate. Increasingly the agriculture became more complex as more food was required. The requirement of a flourishing agriculture triggered the technological development, and nuclear energy was a matter of time.

Clearly, agriculture should be regarded as the jumping ground. What does biblegod in this scenario  

Biblegod favored meat offerings. That can be easily fulfilled by a shepherd. But shepherds' economy is not varied enough, and no technology beyond cutting and shaping of a stick is needed.
Now biblegod favored shepherd Abel, and rejected the humble farmer Cain. His offerings were spurned and ridiculed without any rhyme or reason !!!

Cain went off an founded a settlement [grandly called a city of 3 residents],  a fixed abode and started a technological revolution !! What did Abel and his descendants contribute to technology A stick. Later on a crook and other tools for shepherds were fashioned by the very craftsmen created and sustained by the labor of farmers !!!! Farmer could survive without shepherds but not vice versa !!!

Was biblegod plain cussed one or he cared the least for the welfare of his creatures??? What happened to an omniscient and loving entity
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Biblegod kept Adam and Eve confined to Eden after negligently or designedly denying them sexuality and procreation !!! [is it start of ID??]. What could the duo [not a real couple even] produce in technology And technological development does require surplus man power, and there were no means of achieving that !!!!

Biblegod was anti civilization.

i don't have many socio/politico conversations... and yes it amazes me how little people know... or even scarier... care

There Is No Tomorrow
    By Bill Moyers
    The Star Tribune

    Sunday 30 January 2005

    One of the biggest changes in politics in my lifetime is that the delusional is no longer marginal. It has come in from the fringe, to sit in the seat of power in the Oval Office and in Congress.

    For the first time in our history, ideology and theology hold a monopoly of power in Washington. Theology asserts propositions that cannot be proven true; ideologues hold stoutly to a worldview despite being contradicted by what is generally accepted as reality. The offspring of ideology and theology are not always bad but they are always blind. And that is the danger: voters and politicians alike, oblivious to the facts.

    One-third of the American electorate, if a recent Gallup Poll is accurate, believes the Bible is literally true. This past November, several million good and decent citizens went to the polls believing in what is known as the "rapture index."

    These true believers subscribe to a fantastical theology concocted in the 19th century by a couple of immigrant preachers who took disparate passages from the Bible and wove them into a narrative that has captivated the imagination of millions of Americans. Its outline is rather simple, if bizarre: Once Israel has occupied the rest of its "bibli-cal lands," legions of the Antichrist will attack it, triggering a final showdown in the valley of Armageddon. As the Jews who have not been converted are burned, the messiah will return for the rapture. True believers will be lifted out of their clothes and transported to heaven, where, seated next to the right hand of God, they will watch their political and religious opponents suffer plagues of boils, sores, locusts and frogs during the several years of tribulation that follow.

    I've reported on these people, following some of them from Texas to the West Bank. They are sincere, serious and polite as they tell you they feel called to help bring the rapture on as fulfillment of biblical prophecy. That is why they have declared solidarity with Israel and the Jewish settlements and backed up their support with money and volunteers. That is why the invasion of Iraq for them was a warm-up act, predicted in the Book of Revelations, where four angels "which are bound in the great river Euphrates will be released to slay the third part of man." For them a war with Islam in the Middle East is something to be welcomed - an essential conflagration on the road to redemption. The rapture index - "the prophetic speedometer of end-time activity" - now stands at 153.

    So what does this mean for public policy and the environment? As Glenn Scherer reports in the online environmental journal Grist, millions of Christian fundamentalists believe that environmental destruction is not only to be disregarded but hastened as a sign of the coming apocalypse.

    We're not talking about a handful of fringe lawmakers who hold or are beholden to these beliefs. Nearly half of the members of Congress are backed by the religious right. Forty-five senators and 186 members of the 108th Congress earned 80 to 100 percent approval ratings from the three most influential Christian-right advocacy groups. They include Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, Assistant Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, Conference Chair Rick Santorum of Pennsylvania, Policy Chair Jon Kyl of Arizona, House Speaker Dennis Hastert and Majority Whip Roy Blunt. The only Democrat to score 100 percent with the Christian Coalition was Sen. Zell Miller of Georgia, who before his recent retirement quoted from the biblical Book of Amos on the Senate floor: "The days will come, sayeth the Lord God, that I will send a famine in the land." He seemed to relish the thought.

    Onward Christian Soldiers

    And why not? There's a constituency for it. A 2002 Time/CNN poll found that 59 percent of Americans believe that the prophecies found in the Book of Revelations are going to come true. Tune in to any of the more than 1,600 Christian radio stations or flip on one of the 250 Christian TV stations across the country and you can hear some of this end-time gospel. And you will come to understand why people under the spell of such potent prophecies cannot be expected, as Grist puts it, "to worry about the environment. Why care about the earth when the droughts, floods, famine and pestilence brought by ecological collapse are signs of the apocalypse foretold in the Bible?"

    These people believe that until Christ does return, the Lord will provide. One of their texts is a high school history book, America's Providential History, which contains the following: "The secular or socialist has a limited resource mentality and views the world as a pie ... that needs to be cut up so everyone can get a piece." However, "the Christian knows that the potential in God is unlimited and that there is no shortage of resources in God's earth … while many secularists view the world as overpopulated, Christians know that God has made the earth sufficiently large with plenty of resources to accommodate all of the people." No wonder Karl Rove goes around the White House whistling that militant hymn, "Onward Christian Soldiers." He turned out millions of the foot soldiers in this past election, including many who have made the apocalypse a powerful driving force in modern American politics.

    Once upon a time I thought that people would protect the natural environment when they realized its importance to their health and to the health and lives of their children. Now I am not so sure. It's not that I don't want to believe that - it's just that I read the news and connect the dots.

    Immoral Imagination

    Mike Leavitt, the former administrator of the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency, declared the election a mandate for President Bush on the environment - a mandate for an administration that wants to rewrite the Clean Air Act, the Clean Water Act and the Endangered Species Act, as well as the National Environmental Policy Act, which requires the government to judge beforehand if actions might damage natural resources.

    The Environmental Protection Agency had even planned to spend $9 million - $2 million of it from the administration's friends at the American Chemistry Council - to pay poor families to continue to use pesticides in their homes. These pesticides have been linked to neurological damage in children, but instead of ordering an end to their use, the government and the industry were going to offer the families $970 each, as well as a camcorder and children's clothing, to serve as guinea pigs for the study.

    I read all this and then look at the pictures on my desk, next to the computer - pictures of my grandchildren: Henry, age 12; Thomas, age 10; Nancy, 7; Jassie, 3; Sara Jane, nine months. I see the future looking back at me from those photographs and I say, "Father, forgive us, for we know not what we do." And then I am stopped short by the thought: "That's not right. We do know what we are doing. We are stealing their future. Betraying their trust. Despoiling their world."

    And I ask myself: "Why? Is it because we don't care? Because we are greedy? Because we have lost our capacity for outrage, our ability to sustain indignation at injustice?"

    What has happened to our moral imagination?

    The news is not good these days. I can tell you that as a journalist I know the news is never the end of the story. The news can be the truth that sets us free - free to fight for the future we want. And the will to fight is the antidote to despair, the cure for cynicism, and the answer to those faces looking back at me from those photographs on my desk.

    What we need is what the ancient Israelites called "hocma" - the science of the heart, the capacity to see, to feel and then to act as if the future depended on you. Believe me, it does



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    Bill Moyers was host until recently of the weekly public affairs series "NOW with Bill Moyers" on PBS. This article is adapted from AlterNet, where it first appeared. The text is taken from Moyers' remarks upon receiving the Global Environmental Citizen Award from the Center for Health and the Global Environment at Harvard Medical School.
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hmmmm......

I seriously doubt the congressional thing...

Going Too Far
    By William Rivers Pitt
    t r u t h o u t | Perspective

    Thursday 29 December 2005

    The bouncer at my bar is named Ty. A native of New Orleans, he speaks with the slow drawl unique to the region, and he is huge. Not outlandishly huge, not freakishly huge, but definitely one of the larger specimens of human one is likely to meet. He works the door at my joint, as well as at another bar down the street a ways. Ty is smart, funny as all get-out and a marvelous spinner of tales.

    Each night Ty works he regales my friends and I with stories of mayhem and bouncer-justice, of the drunken boobs stupid enough to think they can push him around at the other establishment. My bar, one gets the sense, is too peaceful for his tastes; he has never been forced to exercise his talents while working at my joint.

    Ty and I have assiduously observed the tenets of that invisible sign which hangs over the door of every drinking establishment in America: "Thou Shalt Not Discuss Religion Or Politics In This Place." The two reasons for this are straightforward: I don't particularly relish the idea of discussing work when I am in my cups; also, Ty is an ardent Bush supporter, so the first reason becomes doubly significant. If I want to get frustrated and annoyed, I can just turn on CNN and listen to the Know-Nothings ply their wares.

    A funny thing happened the other night, however - something that changed the whole dynamic of our relationship. I was passing by Ty, and he grabbed me by the arm to pull me aside. He knows what I do for a living, and wanted to discuss politics in defiance of the invisible sign. "What do you think of the Patriot Act?" he asked me.

    "I think it's a damned troubling thing," I said after a moment. "There are aspects of it that have been on the books for years because of the War on Drugs. There are aspects of it that are brand new to American law. Overall, I think it is tremendously invasive and not in line with how we have done things in this country. As a Republican," I said with a bit of the needle in my voice, "the issues of personal freedom and governmental interference should bother you."

    "I ain't no Republican," he said. "I'm an Independent. I think they're all crooks."

    "Fair enough," I said, "but you are a Bush supporter."

    "Yep," he drawled. "So what parts of the Patriot Act don't you like?"

    "Well," I said, "one scary part of it is Section 215, the thing people call the 'Sneak-and-Peek' provision. Section 215 says law enforcement can enter your house, search your stuff, bug your phone, bug your computer - and they never have to tell you they were there. The FBI could have 215'd their way into my house and I'd never know it. Hell, they could be there right now. All they need to do it is a warrant signed by a judge somewhere."

    "That ain't right," he said after a moment's consideration. "But at least they have to talk to a judge."

    "Well," I said, "have you heard about all this stuff with the National Security Agency spying on people here in America?"

    "Little bit, yeah," he said.

    "You know that the NSA can spy on pretty much anyone, tap their phones, do total surveillance?" I asked, and he nodded. "Well, back in 2002, Bush told the NSA to start spying on Americans. Lots of them. But he did this without going through the FISA court."

    "FISA court?" he asked.

    "FISA stands for the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, which was passed in 1978," I said. "After Watergate and all that craziness, they wanted to make sure our intelligence services weren't being used by people in power to spy on Americans. If you want to get the NSA to spy on Americans, you have to get a warrant from what's called the FISA court. They're a few judges who hear arguments for special FISA warrants."

    "OK."

    "Now here's one of the crazy parts with this Bush-NSA thing," I said. "To get a warrant from this FISA court, you don't need to have probable cause. You don't need to have evidence. The FISA court has handed out more than 19,000 warrants since it was set up, and has only denied four. And they do it quickly, because obviously if you go before the FISA court for a warrant, you're probably pressed for time. It's the easiest court in America to get a warrant from. Bush totally blew past them, said he didn't need warrants from the FISA court, and just had the NSA start spying away on Americans."

    Ty's response to this was too profane to be printed here.

    "Why the hell'd he do that?" he finally asked.

    "Good question," I said. "There are two probable reasons, neither of which are very comfortable. The first reason is that he and Cheney want to expand the power of the Executive Branch. Cheney, specifically, has always felt that the Executive let go of too much power after Watergate and Vietnam, gave too much power to Congress and the press, and these guys have been trying to get it back. So they decided that since we are 'at war,' they were going to do whatever they damned well pleased."

    "Seems smart," he said.

    "Maybe," I said, "but that's a different debate. Ask yourself this, though. Imagine a Democrat wins the White House in 2008. These Bush guys will have left this Democrat with outrageously broad powers. His people can spy on whom they like, because Bush did it. They don't have to get warrants, because Bush did it. They can lie to the press, because Bush did it. They can bulldoze Congress, because Bush did it. That make you comfortable?"

    "Hell no," he said.

    "Right," I said. "Too much power is too much power, no matter who is in power. The separation of powers is there for a reason."

    "So what's the other reason you think he didn't get the FISA warrants?" he asked.

    "That," I said, "is actually the scarier part. Like I said, FISA has given out those 19,000 warrants and has only denied four. It's incredibly easy to get a warrant from them. The only reason they're there at all is to safeguard your privacy and mine, to make sure some crazy maniac in the White House doesn't start spying on Americans, on personal enemies, on you and me. The NSA can do that, so the FISA court is there as a firewall."

    "OK," he said.

    "So maybe," I said, "Bush didn't go to the FISA court because he knew they wouldn't give him the warrants. Maybe he didn't go to the FISA court because he wanted to spy on enemies like Patrick Fitzgerald, like Joe Wilson, like Cindy Sheehan, like Tom Daschle or Harry Reid, or anyone else who was messing with him. Maybe he didn't go to the FISA court because he knew the surveillance he wanted was illegal, but he was damned well going to do it anyway."

    "That ain't right," said Ty, his face reddening.

    "Now take this all one step further," I said, "since you asked about the Patriot Act. Think about that Section 215 and the sneak-and-peek stuff. I told you they need to see a judge first to come into your home, to search and bug your stuff. But this whole NSA deal shows that Bush and these guys don't give a hoot in hell for judges, warrants or the process of law. They're going to do what they want to do, warrant or not. We've got a situation now where Bush and his people could not only be ordering the surveillance of Americans, but could also be authorizing home invasions, and all without any kind of warrants and oversight. What does that sound like to you?"

    "Fascism," he said without hesitating.

    "This is the reason," I said with a smile, "why I don't talk politics at the bar. I have a way of going on and on until the paint peels. But let me ask you one last question."

    "Shoot," he said.

    "As a Bush supporter," I said, "how far are you willing to go to support the guy? How much individual liberty, how many laws, are you willing to give up to Bush before we lose the country? How far is too far?"

    Ty didn't have anything to say at first. "This," he finally muttered, "is too damned far."

    At that moment, a crowd of people came into the bar, and Ty had to check their IDs. I went back to my beer.

    Drip, drip, drip.

Interesting--the more I see of Venezuala's Chavez, the more I like him...

PsillyBoy    

why thank you..! putting on a show about the King of Ketamine and all disociative anesthetic on my birthday (Dec. 30)..!!

how did you know?

i'll be listening from wobble space...

-bp

Years ago I bought galangal roots in an Oriental store.

Popped the tubers in a pot, watered them, put them in the sun and soon new sprouts popped out and it grew into a beautiful plant.

-bp

From: XYZ4203  


Thus spake American [Christian] Talibans
 
Ann Coulter
"We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity. We weren't punctilious about locating and punishing only Hitler and his top officers. We carpet-bombed German cities; we killed civilians. That's war. And this is war."

XYZ: A great purveyor of "good news'. Or bad news

Bailey Smith
"With all due respect to those dear people, my friend, God Almighty does not hear the prayer of a Jew."

Gary North (Institute for Christian Economics)
"The long-term goal of Christians in politics should be to gain exclusive control over the franchise. Those who refuse to submit publicly to the eternal sanctions of God by submitting to His Church's public marks of the covenantâ€"baptism and holy communionâ€"must be denied citizenship."
"This is God's world, not Satan's. Christians are the lawful heirs, not non-Christians."

XYZ: Well, just an echo from many earlierc popes, eg Pius trinity 9-11. Nearly 9/11, eh !!!!

Gary Potter (Catholics for Christian Political Action)
"When the Christian majority takes over this country, there will be no satanic churches, no more free distribution of pornography, no more talk of rights for homosexuals. After the Christian majority takes control, pluralism will be seen as immoral and evil and the state will not permit anybody the right to practice evil."
 
Mini god, Bush Sr.
"I don't know that atheists should be considered citizens, nor should they be considered patriots. This is one nation under God."

Bush, the mini prophet. Prez of USA
"I don't think that witchcraft is a religion. I wish the military would rethink this decision."
[Comment about Wiccans in the military ]
"God told me to strike at al Qaida and I struck them, and then he instructed me to strike at Saddam, which I did, and now I am determined to solve the problem in the Middle East. If you help me I will act, and if not, the elections will come and I will have to focus on them."
"Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists."
"This crusade, this war on terrorism is going to take a while."

There are snators, generals, Attorney generals, petty politicians, two penny padres spewing such Taliban sentiments.

always thought Freddie Mercury died of aids...

http://www.mosnews.com/images/p/12068.shtml

try just answering yes or no... that's the easiest way...

bp

Social Security
Health Care
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Department of Peace

 
 Marking the Sad Milestone
2,000 U.S. Troops Killed in Iraq as of October 25, 2005

October 27, 2005

On Tuesday CNN announced that the 2,000th U.S. soldier had been killed in Iraq, sparking vigils Wednesday all across the country. Congressman Kucinich said on the floor of the House Wednesday,

"Madam Speaker, we mark another sad and tragic milestone in the war in Iraq. Two thousand American soldiers have been killed in the war in Iraq.

"We must end this war. How many more of America's finest have to die for this war before we realize that the quagmire in Iraq cannot be solved by military force, and that our occupation is counterproductive?

"Iraq has been a colossal failure of American policy. From the beginning this administration has waged a campaign of misinformation and has continued to deliberately mislead the public and this Congress about the realities on the ground. The truth is that Iraq will never be free and the insurgency will not end until we end our occupation and allow the decisions about the future of Iraq to be made in Baghdad, not Washington.

"As Americans we lament the loss of every American life and every American injury and every Iraqi civilian casualty. We mourn the first casualties as much as the 2,000th casualty.

"Now more than ever, we need to support the troops. Support the troops by bringing them home."

The Homeward Bound resolution, H.J. Res. 55, is now backed by 63 House representatives, including five Republicans. The House joint resolution, originally sponsored by two Democrats (Neil Abercrombie and Dennis Kucinich) and two Republicans (Walter Jones and Ron Paul), gained another Republican cosponsor on October 19, Congressman Gregory Meeks of New York's 6th Congressional district. The other Republican consponsors are John Duncan of Tennessee and Wayne Gilchrist of Maryland.

You can support our troops by asking your representative to support H.J. Res. 55, urging withdrawal of U.S. Armed Forces from Iraq (Homeward Bound). On its introduction June 16, the resolution was referred to the House International Relations and Armed Services committees.



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Indifference is a Weapon of Mass Destruction
Kucinich Spells Out Priorities for Recovery

Updated September 4, 2005

 In a speech from the House Floor on Friday calling for more aid to people from devasted communities in the south, Dennis Kucinich said our "indifferent government is in a crisis of legitimacy" and charged that it ignores its basic responsibilities for the health and economic welfare of the American people. Kucinich warned that without fundamental changes in American government, last week's tragedy could multiply to "apocalyptic proportions."

The Nation Editor Katrina vanden Heuvel, in her blog, called Kucinich's speech "a powerful indictment of the Administration's disgraceful priorities."

Kucinich decried Administration disregard for the 2001 FEMA warning about the risk of a devastating hurricane hitting the people of New Orleans and the warnings for years by civil and Army engineers about the consequences of failure to strengthen the flood control system, and cuts from the budget of tens of millions of dollars which had been earmarked for Gulf area flood control projects.

Along with accountability for these appropriations, Kucinich called for the following actions:

Return of the 78,000 National Guard troops currently deployed overseas to help in the Gulf Coast region.
Return of equipment to the U.S. needed for search and rescue, clean up and reclamation.
Utilization of Federal resources, including closed Army bases, for temporary shelter of those displaced by the hurricane.
Planning now for the massive public works projects which will be needed to rebuild, with jobs going to the people of the Gulf Coast States.
Extension of Medicare to everyone to provide the physical and mental health care needed in the wake of the disaster.
Meaningful attention by the Federal Government to the research of scientists who have warned for years about the dangers of changes in the global climate, and prudent preparation in other regions of the country for the possibility of additional weather disasters.
Measures to prevent the profiting by oil companies from this tragedy.
A change in energy policies, to end the domination of oil and fossil fuel, and heavy investments in alternative energy, including wind, solar, geothermal and biofuels.
Kucinich said, "As bad as this catastrophe will prove to be, it is in fact only a warning. Our government must change its direction. It must become involved in making America a better place to live, a place where all may survive and thrive. It must get off the path of war and seek the path of peace, peace with the natural environment, peace with other nations, peace through a just economic system."

READ DENNIS'S ENTIRE SPEECH

IN OUR DISCUSSION FORUM:
  • Helping the survivors of Katrina
  • Hurricane Katrina - News
  • Effects of Katrina on oil & gas prices

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The Soul of the Worker and the American Restoration
September 5, 2005

Dennis Kucinich represents, in Washington, the people who make this country run - its workers. His outspoken advocacy for workers' rights and fair trade policy are forging new understandings about trade and work relationships. The only truly sustainable labor and trade practices are those that support the needs of all: the needs of workers for fair treatment, living wages and to bargain collectively; the needs of business for a level playing field; and the needs of the environment for proper stewardship and care.

Kucinich's successes in keeping manufacturers, government facilities and hospitals from closing in northeastern Ohio and elsewhere have saved thousands of jobs. His solidarity with workers fighting unfair wage cuts by highly-profitable employers have helped thousands of families maintain a decent standard of living. His unfaltering opposition to so-called 'free trade' agreements which deprive citizens and workers of their freedoms while they pave the road for multinational corporations to exploit people and the environment have helped millions understand what these trade pacts really do.

In 2002, Dennis gave a speech to the Iowa AFL-CIO State Convention that inspired workers across America to call for him to run for President. On Labor Day 2005, let us revisit those words which are as profound today as they were three years ago.

READ THE SOUL OF THE WORKER AND THE AMERICAN RESTORATION

DISCUSS WORKERS' RIGHTS IN OUR FORUM



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