Christian Zionists are industrious folk, and they are surely on a mission!
http://www.forceministries.com/ (http://www.forceministries.com/)
Skydiving/evangalism and discipleship. What a combo.
At least they are attempting to recruit christian children to die in their war.
Viva la crusades!
lw
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Seemingly the xtians are getting more paramilitary all the time.
Breakfast at Epiphanies
We had an entcounter with the "U Turn for Christ" troops on our vacation. We were camping family reunion style at this family type campgrounds and as the week went by we noticed that the new campers all seemed to know each other. We kept guessing at the connection "dogs" I said, "hunting dogs' my brother-in-law said. "Just from coming here year after year" someone else said.
By Thursday they were showing up in small busses, and instead of well scrubbed families, these guys all looked like they were on day passes from the halfway house. A U-Haul showed up with a huge outdoor kitchen.
The vibe was definitley heavy duty gung ho. Lots of yelling, heave ho's.
Early that night one of them came over to our campsites, big scary looking dude says "We checked with the ofice and they said you guys are gonna be gone tomorrow, what time do you think you will be out of the campsites. I looked at him and said 'Well by 12 noon" (check out time"
So this disciple of christ gives me a most menacing dirty look.
Next morning by 10 Am they had staked a claim on our campsites, and by 11 they were gathering in the street watching us as we leasurely ate our lunch and broke camp. We finally pulled out at 11:55. Would have been 10:15 without their pressure.
We moved into phase two of our holiday, a beach house in Guernevile, right up the road from the camp.
Next day, Saturday morning, I get up before everybody and inspired by the beauty of the redwoods i decide spend the day communing with the spirit of Albert Hoffman. I take a stroll into the heart of town, digging the redwoods, the sunshine, the amazing menagerie of people, and doing some mental re-creating.
Anyone that has been to Guerneville knows what I mean about menagerie. it's got three or four diverse populations, just living together in harmony. One is just regular folks, typical small town california, quite few old hippies, a bunch of obvious meth heads and hard core pot farmers, tourists, and what Guerneville is most famous for, gays.
So I am sauntering back to the house and I see this guy, from the campsite across from us, big loud mouth older guy, I remebered him cause he had the same name as me, Uncle Joe. He comes up to me hands empty, dressed like a beach user/rafter and says hey can I ask you something? I don't think he recognized me. I say with trepidation yes?
He reached into his filthy shorts and pulls out a New Testament. I say no thanks and walk away. I look around and realize that there are 10 or more of the dudes from the campground out doing the same thing!
U turn! Now I see they are thinking their religion is gonna save these gay people from all the happiness I see in them just walking free in the town.
I continue on my way and come to this little tiny one room church, nestled in a redwood grove. For some reason the door is open, but no one is around. I look inside at the stark formality of the pews and pulpit and realize that what the xtians do is try to hold G-d in their hands, try to claim ownership of spirit. It's like that kind majik where you make it look like you created what was gonna happen any way. Like Kesey sneezing lightning, or Bob Weir stopping the rain.
I said to myself, man if you wanna see god, step out of that shack and look up. The wonderous majesty of the universe is in full manifestation in the forest, can't they see it?
I was gonna offer to try their religon if one of them would try mine, but I looked at my dwindling material and said, "Why cast pearls before swine?"
Jesus, protect me from your followers!
Its good to see what the Presidents spiritual advisers are advising now and then - if'n you ain't too scared.
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Pat Robertson, host of Christian Broadcasting Network's The 700 Club and founder of the Christian Coalition of America, called for the assassination of Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez.
From the August 22 broadcast of The 700 Club:
ROBERTSON: There was a popular coup that overthrew him [Chavez]. And what did the United States State Department do about it? Virtually nothing. And as a result, within about 48 hours that coup was broken; Chavez was back in power, but we had a chance to move in. He has destroyed the Venezuelan economy, and he's going to make that a launching pad for communist infiltration and Muslim extremism all over the continent.
You know, I don't know about this doctrine of assassination, but if he thinks we're trying to assassinate him, I think that we really ought to go ahead and do it. It's a whole lot cheaper than starting a war. And I don't think any oil shipments will stop. But this man is a terrific danger and the United ... This is in our sphere of influence, so we can't let this happen. We have the Monroe Doctrine, we have other doctrines that we have announced. And without question, this is a dangerous enemy to our south, controlling a huge pool of oil, that could hurt us very badly. We have the ability to take him out, and I think the time has come that we exercise that ability. We don't need another $200 billion war to get rid of one, you know, strong-arm dictator. It's a whole lot easier to have some of the covert operatives do the job and then get it over with.
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Matthew 7:23 And then will I say to them: "I never knew you, get away from me - workers of lawlessness."
So can Howard Dean as head of the Democratic Party just have Bush whacked?
It's a whole lot cheaper than Howard Dean starting a new campain.
And I don't think any oil shipments will stop.
Man, Pat Robertson just out-and-out lied. He said his remarks were taken out of context. He said he didn't say anything about assassination, he just said the guy should be taken out. Which could mean any number of things like maybe "we" should kidnapp him.
Ok, now I'm confused. Is it ok for "us" xtian's to kidnap foriegn leaders or should we murder them?
His quote isn't taken out of context as far as I can see. Did he forget the 700 Club is recorded?
Robertson said that maybe we should do it, if Chavez is concerned that we are planning to assassinate him. You are correct, Robertson lied. So know has twice the guilt. And to try to say it was out of frustration is bogus. He stated the same intention three different ways on that program. Lying, fuck.
When will Jon Stewart run this country? Or at least CNN?
Maybe we should take Pat Robertson out..............
Whatever that might mean to him
It could be fun to make a list of the things you can get from a religion or spiritual practise. That could be sort of important since our society tend to be more spiritual or "sub-meta-qvasi-spiritual". I.e. look at popular TV-culture, not long ago all popular TV-drama was about hospitals. Now a lot are about "strange-things" (Lost, The 440...).
Ok so how does the spiritual-revenue for the Christ-Warrior match up with the entheogenic & shaman interresting mystic Green2Smoke?
Well a lot of positive points are similar and probably a like for most religions. But we have some important points that are different.
On the christian (I regards USA now, In europe the situation are more complex) side we can notice a stronger money and power supply but local and global. Ie you can meet folks in church and do business. And global you have power networks to push important questions (Ie everyone should prie in school or whatever).
This isnt the case in the same way for a mystic like myself. But on the otherside I am free to use plant-sacraments which enables me to learn things about myself and most important get a direct connections with spirits.
The problem with the christians are that they still really are out to try to wipe out my beliaves and its practise. They are also dogmatic so you cant reason with them. But I still think that the influance that they hold will dimish in time. In USA they are very active now but they have had a lot of years with diminish influence and I backslash was bound to happend. But it is very disturbing how a lot of them almost personal seems out to get people like us that they beliaves talk to devil.