Say, I was thinking of purchasing some kratom here soon, have been hearing some rather good things about it lately. And was just curious about dosages and what is the better deal, purchasing foilage or extracts.
Any suggestions or tips would be appreciated.
I'd buy the regular leaf, it's had the best effects for me, other than fresh leaves. Just got some of the resin extract in today. However I'm not getting my hopes up over it... I've heard time and again how the majority of people seem to prefer the plain leaf over the extracts.
What effects were you hoping to get out of it? People say that a stimulant dose is between 5-9 grams, much more than that (up to 15g.) and it will have more of an opiate-type effect.
Personally I've never felt speeded out on kratom, but it definately does have that effect on a lot of people.
About a week ago I ordered 4oz, only spent 20$, so at least the price is starting to come down.
Sweet, thanks for the head up Varja. I'll give the leaf a look first then. Say, that price you quoted is alot cheaper than I've found around. Any chance you could pm me or post the vendors store name?
Hang on, pm coming soon to an inbox near you. ;)
I would suggest getting the strongest leaf you can. That way it can be eaten in relatively small quantities, minimizing the tannin and emetic components consumed. Danny and Duncan -- the main wholsalers of the plant -- have what they refer to a "super grade." Various retailers call it different things, but I'd try to get that grade.
Perperation is simple. Start with a slightly rounded teaspoon of finely powdered kratom, and mix it with a glass of grapefruit juice. Drink quickly. Add more or less depending upon your reaction, and what you're trying to achieve.
Quote from: "Amomynous"I would suggest getting the strongest leaf you can. That way it can be eaten in relatively small quantities, minimizing the tannin and emetic components consumed.
Well, I did find a place just yesterday that sells 250 grams for $45 (powdered or crushed leaf) I was thinking of purchasing as it is a far site cheaper than most sites selling it @ around $1-3 a gram. I imagine it's a pretty standard leaf quoting from this particular site ::Our kratom is imported fresh from Bali, Indonesia and is the best commercial grade in the world. Our commercial grade contains 65mg alkaloids per 25gm.:: end quote
Which is the pretty standard spiel I've seen at most sites. I don't put much stock in this supposed super leaf crap. Reminds me of the time I bought some 'super shamanistic' sweetgrass which was the same plane jane plugs I bought from them a couple of months laterfor half the price. Am just hesitant to buy anything that might be that fake kratom thats been floating around........ or at least, was floating around.
Hi, sorry if this is innapropriate for the section, but I have the commercial and premium leaf on my site. The dosage is really quite different between the two which is reflected by the price difference. I like the Premium better because you just need to eat a few grams rather than make a tea with half ounce plus from the commercial leaf. All the leaf on the net is the same and comes from the same main source, the difference is between commercial and premium other than what PAHerbs calls super which doesn't seem worth the price difference over potency difference. Anyway, I can give a discount just need to email me. btw, there is also the resin extract made from the premium leaf that works well and is easier to work with, it makes experiencing the taste unnecessary.
Thanks fract........ no I don't think your response was inapropriate.
Actually though, I may have jumped the gun, but I just made the $45 purchase. I figured it would be a good place to start. Plus I have a soxhlet so if anything else I could make my own resinous extract. But thats hindsight for yah.
Yah say it takes a half ounce or so of the commercial quality stuff aye? Mmmm, thats too bad.
...... if theirs a next purchase though. I'd deffinetly go through you.
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Quote from: "Avery L. Breath"Which is the pretty standard spiel I've seen at most sites. I don't put much stock in this supposed super leaf crap. Reminds me...
Well, caution is always reasonable. But -- personally -- I've had the top grade many times (from at least three suppliers), and I have found it to be highly active at doses much less than those quoted in the standard literature (such as Siebert's FAQ). Draw your own conclusions...
Well, caution is always reasonable. But --I have found it to be highly active at doses much less than those quoted in the standard literature (such as Siebert's FAQ). Draw your own conclusions...[/quote]===================================================================== Now that is a breath of freash air :P :P :P -------sal
Yeah, the commercial grade is definitely lower dosage than Seiberts FAQ, by about half probably. My point was simply that compared the the premium powder which is dosage at 3-6 grams, the price reflects the potency difference and per dose the premium may actually be less expensive. Pretty close though really. The main difference for me is that the premium just FEELS better, it is easier to take but I also think the effect is nicer.
Well, I got that Kratom the other day. I'd have to say it was worth the wait. 15grams commercial grade, run throught the expresso maker was pretty interesting.... for a good three or four hours, didn't taste too bad either. I'd have to say it's affects appear to be primarily sedative in the 15 to 20 grams range for me. Feals kinda like an opiate sorta kinda maybe.
In Thailand, kratom users chew from 20 to 40 leaves a day. Theya re addicted,a as one would be to heroin or to opium. They ahve no extracts and could care less about the extracts. They chew the leaves for stamia.
I will try to post some iamges here before I leave for Thailand next week.
boomer2
Iv`e come accross kractom several times now.To be honest,didn`t much care for it. That`l raise one eyebrow,i know...
Boomer2 may have true focus on this,there is a few effects,almost contradictory in nature.
But I could see it being used for 'stamina'. Perhaps it relieves another induced problem,but I`d like to know more.
Depends upon the dosage. At lower doses it is a stimulant. At higher doses, it is definately a euphoricant.