Will you return to the world after this life or not?
If not, then there's little reason to try to adjust future reality for the world.
Or, maybe you think you'll be back?
Once there's DNA in the works, there's a future. mankind's here to keep the race going. Can't go if there's no habitat.
You are so banji, Tabs......
booty come thru the door poppin' and twistin'
we hittin' on the loose 'til the share-free missin'
Whether I return or not, I'd like this plane's reality to be sane, for the sake of all sentient beings.
I'd rather not return, thanks...
perhaps consciousness itself is just an illusion created by some very complex wiring... personally, i think there is evidence of this all around us. you can see it in dementia/tbi patients as different components of the machine break/have broken. sometimes components break and new memories cannot be formed. other times words cannot be recalled accurately. frontal lobe dementia can change someones personality completely. and if there is enough damage to the brainstem, that's it. of course there is still a lot left to be discovered but we can be pretty sure that the brain is a network of specialized computers and consciousness is a result of that machine running correctly. it's shocking to see the change that can occur in a person who has had a stroke. if you are not convinced that the brian is a evolutionary supercomputer than hang out with some stroke victims. i have seen personality after personality gradually erode away and have become convinced that my brain as well, is eroding away - but not in a sad way!
so if consciousness is merely the result of a very sophisticated computer network firing on all cylinders than "i" am merely the result of this machines ability to store bits of information about "my" experiences to create this "i tarzan you jane" awareness we all have grown to develop. so when "i" die, or rather when the organ systems currently providing my thought computer with nutrients fail to sustain cellular life inside of "my" cranium, "i" will cease to exist. the story doesn't have to be over here of course due to infinite time and space but those ideas are somewhat tangential.
perhaps if i chose to not define "myself" as "i tarzan" i can circumvent this issue altogether! if i choose to define myself as the functional sum of my parts i can then accept that my parts can never leave this world. inside and out i am engulfed by this world. i can never be separate from "the world" as i am merely components assembled from the world.
so there you go, "i" will never leave this world because "i" am just components of this world. "tarzan", however, will die. he will die an infinite number of times throughout infinite time and space.
i have no idea what will happen to my ghost.
hi chief. I like your assemblage of parts model.
and the deconstruction as some parts become dysfunctional
the collection of those that comprise "tarzan" may start to melt away and there goes 'I'.
i like this very much. It gives perspective!
thanks
Thanks judih. Tarzan want to take credit for these ideas, but realize they too are merely an assemblage of parts. I think one can have a lot of fun with this concept and it doesn't have to be so bleak. There is, for me, a sense of peace that comes with the realization that my current incarnation, to which I have become quite attached, was only momentarily burped out of this infinite ever changing molecular soup. This word 'infinite' is where things get really comforting for me. If 'I', this assemblage of cells, was able to assemble once in infinite time and space, the assumption it hasn't happened again might indicate some naivety. this is why I get frustrated with incarnations that play the role of the poo pooing atheist, or any others who get carried away with assumptions. ...Wait... maybe I'm getting carried away with my own assumptions and my subconscious realizes this, and that creates some cognitive dissonance that causes me to get frustrated with others to avoid accepting my own mistakes. So I guess the question is, what was the question again?
Those are good thoughts, chief. Our brains do determine how we will act and what we can do. Just like the rest of our bodies have an important function but the brain most of all.
I think i've been around before and will be again. I may have had thousands of lives, millions for all i know. They say we retain memories of our life after we die and are on the astral plane. Then, after death over there we come back here and forget everything that came before. Or perhaps its a voluntary action to come back? Just some thoughts.
the dna that populates my current combination has memory.
or so i currently maintain.
i can't be held responsible for current thoughts as i'm listening to fabulous music and all has shifted .
i wonder if it goes even further than that stonehendge. i often wonder if 'i' exists on some ever expanding continuum just outside our realm of understanding. i mean, just think how your definition of 'i' has changed as your brain has been shaped by your environment. and consider that 'i' can only be experienced when its particular incarnation is in its functional existence. outside of that, whatever 'i' you currently posses would seemingly pass instantaneously through space time until it is perfectly recreated in some distant space. but only your current 'i', what you currently define yourself as, in this instant. all of the other 'i's' would exist only in the instantaneous moment they existed while enveloped by a specific set of historical circumstances. otherwise a new 'i' would branch out based on these new circumstances. i think these circumstances must also exist on a continuum. for example, imagine the exact molecular 'i' that was formed at my conception was formed kajrillions of light years from here. imagine the hospital where i was born, by chance, was recreated down to the last electron spin. a 50 mile radius around me is an exact replica my own. but then say on my fifth birthday a bird flies into that 50 mile radius, that did not during my current incarnation, this would then create a fully unique 'i' experience somewhere in space-time. so all of these different i's' exist independently and are infinitely smeared throughout space time. so then 'i' really only exists in that instantaneous moment that just passed by- scattered infinitely throughout space time. so essentially, every instant represents a new branch. and likely there would be some astronomically large but finite number of unique experiences so eventually our lives will be relived exactly as they have been so far. this thought might bring comfort to some as they slide away from the optimism and novelty of childhood and towards the fear and pain associated with death.
this ties into what you said judih, is there memory in DNA? i love the concept of DNA having memory and i have wrestled with it myself. i spent a very memorable evening once convinced i was communicating with my other incarnations through some sort of resonance in space time...allegedly. at the time i really felt it. now i'm not convinced that this bridge exists- at least i don't feel i have been the recipient of any data. i have heard people describe how they see their children demonstrate seemingly learned behaviours without training but wonder if what i'm really seeing is the contrast between a child and adult's ability to absorb data. meaning the child is likely absorbing and interpreting data about the adult while the adult is too absorbed in thought to realize this occurs. this may result in the adult getting the impression that the child has learned through some other pathway. if i had to guess i would say the information pathway must be predominantly social but i'm open to the idea of passing actual memories on through the genes. it would seem likely there is a deeper layer of encryption that we have yet to uncover. what kind of tunes are you wearing out?
I think its a matter of consciousness, not so much dna or physical.