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Plant Matters => The Trade Winds => Topic started by: meme on December 24, 2013, 09:43:43 PM

Title: Tabernaemontana pollen wanted
Post by: meme on December 24, 2013, 09:43:43 PM
My t africana blooms well, but she is lonely.

Anyone have a related specie and want to trade pollen?

Since the inherent cost is low, anyone want to try other genera for.hybridization, tabernathe, voacanga maybe even :)

Let's bring the site back with some hybrids!
Title: Re: Tabernaemontana pollen wanted
Post by: Stonehenge on December 27, 2013, 04:54:50 PM
I think it would have to be the same species to work. I have some ibogas and never have gotten seed though they do flower.
Title: Re: Tabernaemontana pollen wanted
Post by: meme on December 27, 2013, 06:40:18 PM
I do not know of any plants that are species specific.  There are definately barriers that can prevent hybridization but there are certainly many examples of.tabernathe and tabernaemontana hybrids, naturally even.  I have heard some believe (flying spaghetti monster???) that the round or oblong (memory of an old man) was a natural hybrid, although that is likely bull

i have a dozen buds on my africana...  I will save pollen if no one has any in time.

Who wants tabaemontana africa pollen?  What you got to loose??!?!

Title: Re: Tabernaemontana pollen wanted
Post by: Wakinyan on February 07, 2015, 08:01:10 PM
Wow, this is an old post. I have to post though as you are very right meme. There are many barriers to fertilization and hybrids can definitely be made. I have even heard of T. elliptica being used to make hybrids with T. iboga. Pollen cocktails or mentor pollen are just one means of getting hard to make crosses to work. Other techniques that can sometimes be used is pollinating the stigma before the flower has matured and before the stigma has grown to its full length. This seems to be more important when the pollen donor is from a species that has a shorter stigma or pistil than the recipient. Pollen should be dried and stored frozen and shipped at 2-8 degrees Celsius if one can swing it... colder if possible. This is best done with cold packs and Styrofoam packing or dry ice. I've found pollen can easily be shipped in microcentrifuge tubes or on fluffed up q-tips in small plastic containers and protected from bouncing around. Pollen that is allowed to reach room temperature after freezing can vary in its viability and seed production generally gets lower the older and warmer the pollen has been allowed to get. Suffice it to say, I have shipped and received pollen internationally with good results without even using any means of cooling the container though with some types of pollen. If you don't experiment you will never know. As you state Meme... what you got to loose? Other barriers to fertilization can be as simple as flower types that open at night and those that open during the day, flowering during different seasons, geographical barriers, etc. If the barrier is simply that the two flower at different times of day, month, etc... this can easily be overcome with stored pollen.