So, it seems like several forces are working hard to bring this to market as a new drug. Anyone know anything about it? Grow it? Hate it?
I am going to order plant materials from several vendors, and compare them. I hope to at least extract and have analysed the material, in addition to bioassay. Does anyone have any material they would like to contribute? Even if not, let me know if you find this interesting!
I wanted to like it, I really did. However, I could never get anything out of it.
I never tried an extraction though. I only made tea and smoked it(and even tried both at the same time)
I would love to know how this goes. it would be cool if someday it was able to live up to it's own hype.
Quoteit seems like several forces are working hard to bring this to market as a new drug
what forces? and what chems would be pulled out of it?
Well, maybe you have the wrong mint!
"Some vendors are selling herbs as "Lagochilus inebrians" that are not the correct species. At least one vendor has been selling a different species, Lagochilus cabulicus, falsely claiming that it is the same as Lagochilus inebrians. I have analyzed the material offered by that vendor and found that it does not contain lagochilin. Unfortunately, the problem of people selling misidentified herbs is quite common. Unlike most other vendors, we always compare the morphological and chemical characteristics of our herbs against authenticated specimens to make sure that they are what they are supposed to be."
-Daniel Siebert
So, you can guess one vendor selling it! Googling the active, lagochilin, shows a few web sites all owned by a wholesale company that sells shamanic herbs. Since they claim to sell 98% lagochilin, they might actually have the herb in question.
How close are Lagochilus cabulicus and inebrians(as far as looks and smell/taste?)
all I know is whatever I had looked and smelled exactly like inebrians.
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What does it smell like, exactly?
unfortunately it's been such a long time that I can't recall so well.
What I remember is it smelled somewhat floral and it tasted like almost any other pretty mild herbal tea lol sorry I know that's as vague as can be but I can't remember.
in any case the flower in the top right corner of what you posted is the same as what I had.
I remember that because they were loaded with thorns.
Was it bitter? Reading what little info I can find it is usually reffered to as bitter, but not overly unpleasent.
I have a bag of it in the fridge and some seeds. The seeds are hard to sprout, however. I tried the tea and didn't like the taste and the effects were nothing special.