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Plant Matters => The Trade Winds => Topic started by: Mr. green on August 28, 2010, 11:16:00 AM

Title: ayahuasca-journey no scammer...
Post by: Mr. green on August 28, 2010, 11:16:00 AM
Hi folks!

I wanted to tell all of you people that he is not a scammer or something like this.
Ive been doing quite a while nice business with him and it always works out fine.
It's just that communicating with him is sometimes a hard deal because of different interpretations having a culture related background. Nevertheless its a great guy doing business with.

-PEACE TO YALL

Mr. Green
Title: Re: ayahuasca-journey no scammer...
Post by: Ignas on August 29, 2010, 10:41:45 AM
Ayahuasca-journey very good guy and also very good saller. Seeds viability is approx. 96%, plants arrive in very good conditions.
You can trust him 100%!!!

Peace,

Ignas
Title: Re: ayahuasca-journey no scammer...
Post by: Stonehenge on August 29, 2010, 02:03:26 PM
Uh huh. It would count a lot more if these glowing endorsements were from a regular and not someone with a couple posts who uses poor english. I'm not saying he is a ripoff, i'm saying i for one will not send first.
Title: Re: ayahuasca-journey no scammer...
Post by: roach on August 31, 2010, 08:00:08 PM
I will place a test order and let everyone know how it works out. I've been around for over 10 years + but asked to have my account deleted and now I'm back.

-roach
Title: Re: ayahuasca-journey no scammer...
Post by: JRL on September 01, 2010, 03:47:55 PM
Roach is a down boy, been part of the tribe forever!!
Title: Re: ayahuasca-journey no scammer...
Post by: Zaka on September 01, 2010, 05:08:46 PM
Irie,
Well I've had a couple of things from him & got another on the way! He's safe!
So is Roach!
Respect
Z
Title: Re: ayahuasca-journey no scammer...
Post by: dendro on September 01, 2010, 09:28:46 PM
He may be a good guy, and safe.  :smoke:3

But I still would like some evidence that he can deliver live rooted plant material to a buyer in the USA successfully. Cuz I doubt he will return my funds if his efforts to deliver fail.

There's more to this than just putting some seeds into an envelope.  :smoke2:
Title: Re: ayahuasca-journey no scammer...
Post by: Zaka on September 02, 2010, 08:10:50 AM
Irie Dendro,
You're right!
So far I've had seeds and caapi vine.
Not tried for live cuttings!
Let us know how it goes?
Respect,
Z
Title: Re: ayahuasca-journey no scammer...
Post by: ayahuasca-journey on September 02, 2010, 04:35:58 PM
hI, Folks i just wanted to let you know this is the way i deliver my live plants seeds they arrive 90% alive.
peace

Ayahuasca-journey

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Title: Re: ayahuasca-journey no scammer...
Post by: dendro on September 02, 2010, 07:09:47 PM
Hi a-j...

Again, I am not concerned that you can't package well, I'm sure you do, and your packaging looks good.

I am concerned about the legals, about the paperwork, fees  etc..

If your shipments are confiscated by US Customs, for any reason, then nobody gets to grow the plant, and the money is gone. And if you don't have the required licenses and certificates to export live plants from your country to the US, the packages may not even get out of your country's Customs shop.

So again, as I told you months ago, I would like to see some photo or copy paper evidence that live plants you have shipped to the USA actually have successfully passed thru Customs and have been received by the buyer. A well-known  buyer's endorsement is great, but I would like to see the documents.

Roach is solid, but he's in Canada, with different laws and policies from the USA. So I'd like to see papers from a live plant package that cleared US Customs.
Title: Re: ayahuasca-journey no scammer...
Post by: VajraPirate on September 12, 2010, 02:45:30 PM
i can vouch for Mr green being a stand up guy. we have done business together in the past. He is sometimes slow (as am I) but i always get what he promises.

To me the only problem with A-J is the shipping charges. you'd have to place a pretty big order for it to be worth it.
Title: Re: ayahuasca-journey no scammer...
Post by: VajraPirate on September 22, 2010, 02:22:03 PM
having read up recently on the proper botanical identification of diplopterys and what sets it apart from banisteriopsis, and having seen pics of AJ's Chaliponga plants forming seed I have sadly come to the conclusion that he has unknowingly misidentified the Dip's.

I seriouisly doubt it was intentional, and otherwise know for a fact that this vendor is safe to order from. He seems to be on top of the banisteriopsis' but when it comes to Diplopterys, he is off a little bit.

D cab grows near the amazon, but other diplops go up as far as Brazil and eastern brazil, I think it maybe be a relative of d cab or even possibly dip v. but it is definitely not D cab.

He is an honest man. He just made a mistake here.

That is my conclusion.

Back to the hunt for the real deal!
Title: Re: ayahuasca-journey no scammer...
Post by: dendro on September 23, 2010, 05:42:22 AM
A-j, didn't you drink this plant to feel its spirit?  :oops:

How can you sell caapi vine as D. cabrerana?  :roll:
Title: Re: ayahuasca-journey no scammer...
Post by: Amomynous on September 23, 2010, 08:50:18 AM
Quote from: "dendro"How can you sell caapi vine as D. cabrerana? :roll:

That happened to me once, from who I would characterize as a reliable vendor. It was a case of misidentification.

I once paid a lot of money for what was supposedly a section of viable D. cabrerana vine. I split it in two and grew it out. It turned out to be B. caapi -- a nice specimen to be sure, but paying something like $80.00 for a six inch section of caapi vine is a bit extreme.

From my research it is really hard to grow out a cutting of chaliponga. I was in Peru once and brought back some sections from a known, good source. I tried to grow them out but failed horrible; they didn't even think about growing, as far as I could tell! This disappointed me, but on the other hand I've never heard of anyone succeeding. I think that's why folks get so excited about seeds, as they may be the only viable way to go.
Title: Re: ayahuasca-journey no scammer...
Post by: dendro on September 23, 2010, 02:17:31 PM
"From my research it is really hard to grow out a cutting of chaliponga."

This is why the shipped material needs to be a ground layer or an air layer, already well rooted, to give it the best shot at sprouting.

But ID is step one, and drinking a brew would be the obvious way to start.

Have you ever "journeyed" by drinking ayahuasca, a-j? Or do you just send ayahuasca cuttings on journeys thru the post?  :baffled:
Title: Re: ayahuasca-journey no scammer...
Post by: ayahuasca-journey on September 24, 2010, 08:29:12 AM
Dendro hello, I love the comments you make, but it causes some grace and sadness that you only based on science and the link of photos of some real Chaliponga plants, which are already visible in internet ... if you are very familiar with this plant as sought by the members of this and other forums .... that does not show a true picture of the plant, I do not make my conclusions based on science and dendro friend comments.,
I show with actual pictures and current of each species or seeds that I offer I am not relying on science, my studies were done by entering the jungle in search of my plants and seeds, talking a lot with the grandparents of some Indian tribes who know a lot plants because they are not based on science or the use of internet ... but in the transcendence from generation to generation and therefore the grandparents and the Indian shamans are never wrong ... since they were first that science, thanks to the Indians now the modern world is "LEARN" the goodness and wonders and the knowledge and use of plants, perhaps you should discuss and post pictures Chaliponga current real if you say knows and knows a lot about this plant?

ayahuasca-journey
 :smoke1  :tea:
Title: Re: ayahuasca-journey no scammer...
Post by: Amomynous on September 24, 2010, 08:37:04 AM
Quote from: "ayahuasca-journey"...and therefore the grandparents and the Indian shamans are never wrong ...

???

Kind of like the Pope, speaking ex cathedra?
Title: Re: ayahuasca-journey no scammer...
Post by: laughingwillow on September 24, 2010, 12:52:14 PM
You say the pope had a catheter removed, eh? And here I thought he was perfect, eye-talion red patent leather shoes and all.....

lw
Title: Re: ayahuasca-journey no scammer...
Post by: dendro on September 24, 2010, 04:21:43 PM
Quote from: "ayahuasca-journey"Dendro hello, I love the comments you make, but it causes some grace and sadness that you only based on science and the link of photos of some real Chaliponga plants, which are already visible in internet ... if you are very familiar with this plant as sought by the members of this and other forums .... that does not show a true picture of the plant, I do not make my conclusions based on science and dendro friend comments.,
I show with actual pictures and current of each species or seeds that I offer I am not relying on science, my studies were done by entering the jungle in search of my plants and seeds, talking a lot with the grandparents of some Indian tribes who know a lot plants because they are not based on science or the use of internet ... but in the transcendence from generation to generation and therefore the grandparents and the Indian shamans are never wrong ... since they were first that science, thanks to the Indians now the modern world is "LEARN" the goodness and wonders and the knowledge and use of plants, perhaps you should discuss and post pictures Chaliponga current real if you say knows and knows a lot about this plant?

ayahuasca-journey
 :smoke1  :tea:


A-j, this is an example of what we English speakers call "irony". Classic.  :smoke2:

I'm not sure you are understanding my posts, a-j. Pics and botany are good and helpful in the ID process, but I pointed out the most important (and obvious) thing you needed to do to ID the D.c. Sure, you should talk to the elders and shamans. Yes, you should take pics of specific plants to show customers.

But the most important thing I am telling you is, you need to drink the brew of the D. cab to verify for yourself that this is the actual D. cab plant.

Your friend therealsanango says he has drunk this brew, and verified the plant is D. cabrerana. So that is cool. If you can send us seeds of chali, from the plant you show in the pic in the "B. rusbyana" thread, then I bow to you.
Title: Re: ayahuasca-journey no scammer...
Post by: ayahuasca-journey on September 25, 2010, 08:28:42 PM
ok friends, soon I will have seeds for all and rooted cuttings, dry leaves of Chali, for now I leave you with some new pictures of our plant!!!!

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chaliponga flowers

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chaliponga flowers

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chaliponga flowers

All photos are exclusive of ayahuasca-journey
Title: Re: ayahuasca-journey no scammer...
Post by: dendro on September 25, 2010, 09:02:52 PM
drool...

wub (lub dub)...